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Post by 2500kgm3 »

Spoot Knight wrote: There's three forms of the Spider, one's 900 meters, another 1.2 kilometers, the third three kilometers.
Yes, I am aware of the several Battlecrab sizes., although I really doubt I will ever do more than one.

And as promised... Let me tell you a story

A routine patrol composed of five whitestars were traveling through a border sistem, near centauri space...

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When they found something no one was expecting:

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A 1000 meter long Shadow BattleCrab traveling towards Centauri Prime!

The rangers in the whitestars knew they had no chance, but they had to stop or at least delay the advance of the dark behemoth. As they started broadcasting a SOS message to nearby patrols, the five whitestars engaged the titan.

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The agility of the ships saved them from some shots, and their bigger numbers gave them an early advantage.

The death ray from the Battlecrab was soon tearing through the biomechanical hull of the ships, however...

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The battle went on...

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But soon some whitestars where shattered to pieces.

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So finally, the Beast could relax, heal his wounds, and go on with his mission, having killed some flies on it's way.

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Or so he thought, since the broadcasting message from the patrol had brought a taskforce of 15 whitestars to the zone.

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This time, the Battlecrab was already wounded, and really outnumbered. It seemed the Alliance of Light was not going to let him pass without a real fight.

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Finally, the threat was neutralized. At the expense of many of the very valuable whitestars, and many Ranger lives.

So here you got it, the smaller shadow battlecrab, in a true scale to the whitestar. If anyone is interested in downloading both ships, the whitestar and the battlecrab, you could propose me a place to host them. I will upload the pack for you to play with. The shadow laser really cuts through these little pirates . :twisted:
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:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


Shit is this BIG
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to be honest, I found it deceptively small. Obviously, we are talking about the smallest Battlecrab in the shadow "navy" but it's not that impressive when compared to a hestia.

At least not that impressive until it shots at you. Then you would be very impressed. It is a pity you would only have a milisecond or so to enjoy this feeling, I guess.

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I have all DVD from babylon 5
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I also have every DVD to the Babylon 5 franchise.
I just had an idea, change the color of the matrix field to black so it becomes invisible, that way the it doesn't look like a machine is repairing the organic hulls.
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And make the beam more purple, please. A modded megabeam may work.

By the way really good job on the spines of the battlecrab, but the ones at the back should be longer in my opinion.
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I just had an idea, change the color of the matrix field to black so it becomes invisible, that way the it doesn't look like a machine is repairing the organic hulls.
Tried it. It doesn't seem to work, however. The game changes the colour of the matrix field to the colour assigned, but it doesn't pay attention to how dark is the tone you select, so in the end, if I assign a black colour to the matrix field, it will heal with white beams. In the same way, If I chose, say, pink or dark red, I would get the same nanomatrix field colour.
And make the beam more purple, please. A modded megabeam may work.
Changed the beam color to something with a little more purple and less pinkish

I have to say I am indeed modifying the weapons in order to make them fit more or less what was seen in the show -shot bursts, colours...- The definitive payload of weaponry may not fit with the canon statements, but I still go to youtube and watch battlescenes until I have seen the ship in action. Unfortunately, blasters are the main weapon I am using, and it is currently accepting two colours only: green and red. (It's bugged, I think)

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By the way really good job on the spines of the battlecrab, but the ones at the back should be longer in my opinion.
Thanks for the compliment. I am not so fond of the main body of the shadow vessel. It just doesn't look as good as I'd like to. Anyway, I have been working on fixing some mirroring mistakes and tweaking a certain part in the front of the ship.

About the size of the spikes, I believe I got them right. I used this picture for reference.

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And finally, a gift. Here you see the 3 babylon 5 ships I have created in formation. Yes, I said 3. Let me introduce you to the Centauri Vorchan Attack Cruiser which I recently finished and rebalanced.

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It is fairly agile, and features the main, fast reload twin ion cannons, a short range laser seen in some episodes as a wide-fire-arc weapon for striking at small and agile targets, and planetary bombardment weapons -as seen in In The Beginning-
Ideas? opinions?

If I went on to work on a Narn G'Quan, have any of you seen any weaponry on it beyond the 2 frontal red beams? B5Tech lists 6 more cannons, but I have never seen them firing -or at least, I can't remember where are located on the ship- so I might end leaving the ship with 2 very powerful front lasers. It wouldn't be a really big disadvantage if it wasn't for the fact that the G'Quan is not really fast at turning. But anyway, almost all Babylon 5 ships -besides EA ships- are almost devoted to frontal assaults -the vorchan, whitestar and gquan all have most if not all their firepower in the front, and seem to work with a very narrow firing arc. Earth Alliance and minbari ships seem much more flexible.









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Well, I already did it: built and balanced

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In this case, I considered the painted surfaces would have a bigger resistence to enemy fire, while the grey zones would be weaker than average. This allows such a big ship to be destroyed by ships the size of vorchan if the weakness is exploited. Since it has its weapons in the front, and it is an "exposed" area, the ship relies on the high damage of the beams and the distance between the G'Quan and it's target. This was done to keep the feeling that the Narn are one of the less advanced races in terms of space fairing (not counting the non-aligned-worlds)

Testing has shown the resistence I gave to the exposed pieces (50hp, when compared with the 150-200 I am using for standard sections in a cruiser) may be too little. But when thinking throuth it twice, he ship can still destroy a Vorchan on it's own, one to one, so I consider it is not that bad. It even survives the attack of 2 vorchans, killing both, although 3 vorchans would make short work of it.

Well, I think I can say I'm satisfied with the result

The demeter launcher hosts 12 frazi fighters which are released upon enemy is in range


Any comments?



And by the way, playing the "kill the civilian transports" mode in Skirmish using a shadow battlecrab is AWESOME... I love the feeling of it's deadly fast-tracking laser hitting innocent civilians xD...



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DOWNLOAD ADDED FOR ALL FOUR SHIPS:


http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... 3_v01b.rar
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This are the best B5 Ship, i have ever seen. I say one Word. respect. :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Ok, my Vorlon Shipyards have been a little busy with something these days. I hope you like the result.

Here I present you the ships I have currently finished and balanced, in formation and scale one to each other:

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So here you see there are 2 more ships. Yes, it seems I bring you ships in pairs: The Earth Alliance Hyperion Class Cruiser and the Minbari Federation Sharlin WarCruiser.

The Sharlin was one of the ugliest ships I have worked in, in my opinion. It has so much piece repetition... but the fact is, when looked from top to bottom, it IS ugly in the series, and I thought this repetition was a good way to ilustrate the organic-looking lobule-composed structure of this ship.


HERE you have the download:

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... m3_V02.rar

The file includes ALL babylon 5 ships. And this is the way I plan to work. Each download I will provide will have all ships on it. These ships will have minimal changes among them. Maybe a few mirroring mistakes fixed, maybe certain weapons or speed factors changed. That is because as I create another ship and test it against every other ship I have already built, all ships need a little tweaking in order to get a fleet consistent with the cannon evidence seen in the show.

So don't forget to replace the last ships you downloaded with the new ones

Now that you have one ship of each mayor race -but for the vorlons- what would you like to see as my next ship?
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Post by 2500kgm3 »

I doublepost and bump this thread because of two new ships I have made avaliable for download.

Here, you can see all avaliable ships in formation:

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The lattest addition was these two sister ships at the top of the image: Earth Alliance's Nova and Omega capital ships. Every other ship has been rebalanced to keep battles consistent with the new additions.

Here you have the ship pack avaliable as a download.

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... m3_v03.rar

Any comments?
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Post by Auriak »

The Sharlin needs to be longer or not as wide and ooh! The repetition of that one peice :x ! But other than that, very nice ships. My only other comment would be to enlarge the heads of the Nova and Omega, they seem much bigger than that in the show.
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Auriak wrote:The Sharlin needs to be longer or not as wide and ooh! The repetition of that one peice :x ! But other than that, very nice ships. My only other comment would be to enlarge the heads of the Nova and Omega, they seem much bigger than that in the show.
I worked on the sharlin a bit, in order to cut the usage of that piece in half. I think it looks much better now, although it is not easy to make a ship which has no visible plating an an organic-like non-insectoid design

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About the omega, I think I got the proportions nearly right.

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Which ship would you like me to work on now?
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Post by Auriak »

The Sharlin a little more. It's still not long enough and it needs to be more blue. Trust me on this, I entered my Sharlin in the beauty pageant and it won second place in its category according to several judges.

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Post by TormakSaber »

The Centauri is probably my favorite.
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I'd like to see the Warlock.
On the Nova and Omega, you should make the blasters gold / yellow colored and add some beams on the engines.
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