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Yihka's ships (Nooby ships)

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:30 pm
by Yihka
They are not so great, I know that!

I'm just posting them.

If you are worrying that your eyes will burn or fall off, then press back fast!

One question:

Are there buttons to move a part one pixel?



Things you should know:

-The weapons are slow and weak!
-The parts do not go over 300HP


Aliens: (Just a name for these ships)

Battleships:

Alien Battleship A1 "Snake"

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-Many weak weapons.
-Plasma Cannon and 2 strong weapons.
-Very good armor.
-Able to spawn mini ships.
-Aegis armor stuff to defend itself.
-Slow

Ships:

Alien ship A1:

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-Uses a lot of weapons to defend itself
-Very weak
-Easily destroyed.

Alien Bigship A2 "Dragon":

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-Strong cannon, good in destroying armor.
-Multiple cannons and fast shooting cannons
-Medium armor

Miniship:

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-Very weak
-Very fast
-Only good in groups.

Humans

Battleship:

Human Battleship A1 "SUSPECT"

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-Indestructible armor to survive much damage.
-Medium Armor
-Much missiles for maximum damage on enemy.
-Many blasters to destroy enemy.
-Able to spawn mini ships.
-Slow.

Ship:

Human Ship A1: (Pretty bugged)

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-Long range missile ship.
-Some blaster
-Weak armor

Human Bigship A2 "Scorpion"

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-Medium Armor
-Missile launcher for much damage
-Many blasters to defend itself.

Human Bigship A3 "Tentacle"

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-Many MANY blasters
-A blaster which can shoot 90 bullets in 3 seconds.
-Medium Armor
-Some missile launchers.

Miniship:

Human Miniship A1

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-Very weak
-easily destroyed
-Very fast
-Only good in groups

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:50 pm
by Skrim
They just suck. They're all stock green, weapon spammy, badly done, and just plain ugly. The first one is unbearably repetitive.

And you seem to know and consciously realize that they're ugly.

To know what's wrong, read ArcaneDude's advice here. Lurk, and practice.

Re: Yihka's ships (Nooby ships)

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:50 pm
by TheBlueEcho
Yihka wrote:One question:

Are there buttons to move a part one pixel?
Shift + Arrow Keys should be what your looking for.

...and none of the alien ships look alien :lol: . I guess you'll be trying to make better ships soon?

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:56 pm
by Chiiro
Things that need work:
Colors, section variety, weapon placement.

Something other than just the regular stock green would be prefered. =x

Try breaking stuff up a bit designwise, for example the snake looks bland because it's the same few sections over and over. I know sometimes this is the look you want, but it never really turns out looking good.

Try going for less weapons and put them in places where they look like they belong. If you need more firepower you should edit one weapon to be twice as powerful instead of placing another weapon.


Things I like:
The overall design shapes aren't bad, there's potential in most of them if you give them some work and experiment some more.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:09 am
by Bang Doll
Tha Alien A1, the SUSPECT and the Tentacle are my favorites. The general shape of these are good, but if you just toned down the number of weapons and the use of aegis, played around with some colors, and cut down on the number of repeated sections, they would look just that much better.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:12 am
by Slayer0019
Thank you sir for having the dignity of warning us in bold before presenting your ships. The level of spam on the first one caused one of my graphics drivers to kill itself, so I am typing this after a restart. Needs color too.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:17 am
by ArcaneDude
Aren't we the intelligent one. :roll:

But yeah, the post Skrim linked you to kinda sums up the problems on this. He has however given you the wrong link. :mrgreen:

http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 7872#87872

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:34 pm
by DarchZero
Skrim wrote:They just suck. They're all stock green, weapon spammy, badly done, and just plain ugly. The first one is unbearably repetitive.
*snip*
If a mod saw this, you could get warn-banned!

But, in other reasons, you are a patriot to our rants. And a meatshield too. Coz i think you, good sir, are absolutely right. They look like my ships the first time i came here.

One tip: Most people don't care about ship balancing now, they care mostly about what they see, not what they feel. Aesthetics > Balanced weapons
Second tip: Most people tell me this-Try more than one color which don't clash, ablatives/outlining, fake aegis/effects, stacking and 'normalized' weapon placement. If none of those work, try all.

But about my tips, yeah, your ship is so imbalanced too. So, improve, and you'll be known :D

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:50 pm
by Krishach
once again, sorry I'm not crediting who posted this first here, but it wasn't me.

http://colorschemedesigner.com/

For the terminally hopeless with color wheel points, this does it for you.
For large or complicated ships, accented analogic would be arguably the best, while you'll want analogic, compliment or mono for a small ship, but it still has a wealth of SHADES depicted on screen, so give it a shot.

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:13 am
by Yihka
Thanks for the replies!

...

Thanks for the one pixel movement answer since that was the thing that stopped me from building ships!

Also, thank you all for these links, I will look at them and use it.



After watching at some other ships I have now a general idea of what to make. Thank you all!

( Expect a new race with new ships )

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:44 pm
by Yihka
My new miniship:

Karlithy Miniship A1:

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It has custom parts and custom colors.

-2 blasters, 5 damage each. Can shoot one bullet every 30 frames.
-4 parts: 2 wings, one main defense part, a front defense part.

Karlithy Miniship A2L

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Uses custom parts and colors.

-2 blastersm 5 damage each. Can shoot one bullet every 30 frames.
-6 parts: 2 wings, 1 main defense part, 2 side defense parts, 1 front defense part.

This is the newer version of the Karlithy A1. It is a little more expensive to make, but because of it's smaller wings and more defense, this miniship is better than the A1

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:59 pm
by DoomBringer
Interesting new design, like the color but too blunt and stubby for my tastes

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:38 am
by Skrim
Much better.

Though, instead of saying "defense part", you could just say "armor section" or some such thing.

Now try scaling things up.

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:08 pm
by blackrider123
at least you have the basic ship-building skills, just select a theme or a design and start making a proper fleet with it!
based your ships on stock ones first to start off :)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:53 am
by Ninteen45
I'm liking these new ships, they are nicely done. I think you should try to find a style, you know, something that fits you, while looking good.