this will knock your socks off! GRAND CRUISER

bahamutZERO9000 · Post by **bahamutZERO9000** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:44 am

here is my other ship, which was the prototype for the Grand Crusier. it has weak weapons and no shields or armor but it is still pretty strong. i made it at the same time as the Grand Crusier, but i stopped working on it because i liked the Grand Cruiser design better.

it also has the glitch that Grand Crusier has but i am not sure how to fix it because there are too many pieces. i tried to fix it but there was to much complexitey to fix so i gave up. and i can't tell where the white lines are going.

here is the Cruiser number Two, or Grand Cruiser Prototype

i have made a new ship to try and fix my problem. this time, one piece blowing up will not blow up other pieces. i think that was what was wrong with my other ship. this ship is the Special Weapons Ship. it is used by the robot legion to throw up a wall of firepower and destroy the enemy's fighters.

here are links do download
http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... serTwo.shp
http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... nsShip.shp

Post by **Arcalane** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:49 am

Still doing it wrong.

Ed:

THAT is how things should look.

bahamutZERO9000 · Post by **bahamutZERO9000** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:54 am

what???? i tested it and it doesn't blow up all at once like my Grand Crusier and the prototype crusier.

actually there is still one problem. the weapon is not destroyed allong with the thing it was attached too, so sometimes there will be a floating weapon on the Special Weapons Ship when it gets damaged.

Post by **Arcalane** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:55 am

I updated my post with how parenting should look.

ChaosTheory · Post by **ChaosTheory** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:57 am

OMG WANKSHIP

Seriously. You build big ship, I build bigger, better-looking ship and reenact the French Revolution. Bragging about how powerful your ship is is pointless.

Secondly, do you see the white lines on your Ship Builder pics? Those are parenting lines. Each section/weapon should be parented logically so that destroying one section will destroy the other sections and weapons that are connected to it. All of your parenting lines are extending straight from the core, so weapons and things will be left hanging in space even if I blow up the rest of the ship. Select a section, the RMB-> Set Parent on the section it is supposed to be connected to.

bahamutZERO9000 · Post by **bahamutZERO9000** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:00 am

ok i am looking at that picture you added. your lines go from piece to piece and mine go the the core. on the Grand Cruiser, the lines go from piece to piece too, but it still blows up. the weapons are attached directly to the core for added firepower. but i don't think that matters because they are not power conduits as you say.

here is the lines for the Grand Crusier:

as you see the weapons's lines go to the core and the piece's lines are connect to each other. what exactly is the problem? i know there are glitches but i don't understand them yet.

Post by **Arcalane** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:06 am

That's because you connected them badly. The important thing is the sequence or order of the connections. Weapons don't lose or gain anything based on distance or connections.

Post by **Anna** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:07 am

Oy... that parenting is... all over the damn place. Okay, newbie, here's the basics. A section explodes when its parent explodes. If everything is parented to the core, then you will have bits randomly floating in space, when other bits get blasted off. So, ideally, sections and weapons and modules should be PARENTED to the SECTION that it looks like they are ATTACHED TO.

Uggghhh. That parenting is horrible. Also, SUPER STRETCHED SECTIONS are fucking hideous. Don't use them.

Latooni · Post by **Latooni** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:22 pm

I don't know what you guys are talking about, this ship is AWESOME.
Popcorn worthy.

jwa8402 · Post by **jwa8402** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:29 pm

I tried to fix some things on your Special weapons ship. Its not the quality of what the vets look for but it gives you an idea of what is possible. And its the blue print so you can open it in shipmaker and check out the parenting, or blow it up in game and see what they mean. Hope you don't mind.

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... s_ship.sb3

Flether · Post by **Flether** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:09 pm

I really don't get why people dislike his ship so much. It's incredibly fun to send a tiny little light-cruiser sized ship with weak(er) weapons and totally smash a ship that's atleast 50times it's size.

This is your Grand Cruiser against my Revenant MKI, the first ship I made a little over a week ago:

Bigger isn't always better.

Post by **Anna** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:15 pm

I dislike it because it's bad. It looks like shit, it performs like shit, and its parenting is also shit. Any other questions?

Deltaflyer · Post by **Deltaflyer** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:43 pm

Try to click on the piece that will be right next to the peice you are placing before you click and place it. That helped me alot in my newb days.

salanos · Post by **salanos** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:59 pm

Like they said.

Bad parenting, overall design doesn't appeal to me.

Noctis · Post by **Noctis** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:12 pm

Ya know, its times like this that somewhere, in the back of my head, a voice is screaming "HE'S JUST A TROLL, ITS OK, HE'S NOT SERIOUS"

trash the ship

do it

now

Ok once you trash it then look around, look at Anna's guide on shipbuilding
He's a grumpy, seldom affable jerk of a mod but he's also the best damn ship builder here, (the House of BSF sorta)
http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1244

also look at these ships
http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1886

look around the forums in general, look at Anna's works, danny's works, heck even my works.

Come back when you have something resembling anything like the other ships within this forum.

for your sake.