Delta's Andromeda factions and assorted stuff

Slayer0019 · Post by **Slayer0019** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:56 am

That's like designing a gun to jam.

Deltaflyer · Post by **Deltaflyer** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:02 am

Or it is like designing a ship to have a form of balance rather than being a galaxy-burning invinvible killmobile. Keep the smart remarks out of this thread and POST SOMETHING THAT IS CONSTRUCTIVE! OTHERWISE, YOU CAN STFU AND GTFO. Thank you.

ArcaneDude · Post by **ArcaneDude** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:12 am

End the tantrum, Delta.

As far as I'm concerned, there are many ships that don't have a centerline. Most of mine don't. Sides blowing up is a weakness inherent to this style of building, but it's usually not a problem.

Good job on the reinforced central spine, though.

Slayer0019 · Post by **Slayer0019** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:29 am

Deltaflyer wrote:POST SOMETHING THAT IS CONSTRUCTIVE! OTHERWISE, YOU CAN STFU AND GTFO. Thank you.

I love irony. Or hypocrisy, I can't decide which.
Anyways, back semi-on topic, new centerline is quite shiny. It looks a bit more sturdy while still retaining the feeling of a connecting strut. There's a layering error though, a (I think) section 21 is above a section (maybe?)11 and 9, while the other is below them.
And by the way Delta, balance is relative to the rest of the fleet, never to anyone else's. This doesn't just mean stats, it means the way the fleet is designed.

Veronw · Post by **Veronw** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:44 am

hmm personally i don't find the ships design appealing, but constructively its very well done, thumbs up from me

Deltaflyer · Post by **Deltaflyer** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:29 pm

I was just feeling that I had to do something when this little thing hit me. Erm... yea.

ArcaneDude · Post by **ArcaneDude** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:13 pm

There are so many things wrong with this concept that I'm not even gonna begin naming them.

You have some things to study before you try this. The laws of physics, for example.

EDIT;

[16:26] Anna: lol deltaflyer: http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr23 ... system.jpg
[16:26] Anna: SIBER, YOU MUST READ THAT.
[16:26] Erin`Marias: Delta's... thing makes absolutely no sense
[16:26] AD: That's no propulsion system. That's an insult to the laws of physics.
[16:26] Anna: Indeed.
[16:26] Erin`Marias: most propulsion systems (especially FTL ones) are an insult to the laws of physics
[16:27] Siber: my head
[16:27] AD: Yes, but mostly they're well thought through and plausible. This is just...awful.
[16:27] Siber: Photon drives exist
[16:27] Siber: and they don't work like this
[16:27] Anna: Most are insults to the laws of relativity, at least. This one just doesn't make sense AT ALL.
[16:27] Anna: "Future Projects Aim to Increase Efficiency and Speed
[16:28] AD: As i said. Awfum.
[16:28] AD: *l
[16:28] Anna: IF YOU'RE USING LIGHT TO ACCELERATE TO LIGHT SPEED, HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU GO ANY FASTER?
[16:28] Erin`Marias: lightbulbs, obviously
[16:28] LordGarcia: what is that ...
[16:29] AD: Read the caps, LG.
[16:30] LordGarcia: yeah, nvm
[16:30] Anna: I mean, even if I didn't know about Light Not Working That Way (TM), I'd still know that this is a stupid idea, for thinking you could exceed the speed of light by using a stream of light as your method of propulsion.
[16:30] CheesyErwin: That's doesn't make sense at all.
[16:31] CheesyErwin: That*
[16:31] AD: He's thinking that concentrating it using magnets would work. HELL NAW.

Post by **Anna** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:26 pm

Um... yeah. What he said. Seriously, if you want to write interesting fluff about your ships, go ahead. But don't try and use real science terms unless you know what the heck you're talking about. MAKE UP science terms, maybe, but don't abuse real ones.

Using such a method to travel at the speed of light is... well, "impossible" doesn't really convey how stupid this sounds to anyone who knows why lightspeed travel is a no-go.

Post by **Arcalane** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:30 pm

<Anna> IF YOU'RE USING LIGHT TO ACCELERATE TO LIGHT SPEED, HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU GO ANY FASTER?

Deltaflyer · Post by **Deltaflyer** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:12 am

Well, I was just doing it off the top of my head...

If this is the way all my weird things get greeted by, with swearing, put-downs and sheer rudeness (from the three mods, no less) then how are the regular people going to react?

EDIT: Lost what I was going to say due to internet failure, but suffice it to say, My imagination is what this came out of. I posted it so you people could help me refine it and comment on it. I didnt post it to be met with swearing and put-downs. Please, how do I improve it (having never read the 'book of physics', as it were. The way it would work isnt that the speed of light is it's limit. The speed of light is the preliminary speed for the prototype. the efficency of the magnets that 'pull' the craft along will be increased, there-fore, the gravitaional potential energy is converted into magnetic and kinetic energy. I might have pulled the idea out of my arse, but I did think about it.

Anyway, new ship.

Anti-fighter (not named yet, I am running out of bird-names to call my MIL ships

) Has modded and shrunk plasma torpedo launchers to act as flak so it can be aggressive against fighters without needing to press the point-def offensive/defensive button. I have tested it against my MIL fighters but they need alot of work because A) they aren't too nice of a shape and B) they get owned by the MIL bombers, which are also fugly at the moment.

Post by **Anna** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:39 am

Here's a BASIC physics lesson, that just about anyone with any understanding of why Light Speed Travel isn't possible will know.

The faster something travels, the greater its mass gets. The closer and closer it comes to the speed of light, the more power is required to accelerate any more. It is therefor impossible to get to the speed of light through sheer acceleration. If you did somehow defy the laws of physics and do so anyway, you would attain infinite mass.

Which would... well... collapse the universe into a black hole, most likely. This is why almost all fictional forms of Faster than Light travel require some sort of "bubble" around the ship, to alter space-time, to allow for faster travel, or involve travelling through "hyperspace" or "the warp" or some other extra-dimensional space where light travels at a different speed. Or wormholes. Let's not forget wormholes.

As to the swearing and abuse and such... there wasn't even that much of it here. And if you weren't expecting it... what the hell forum have you been looking at? Seriously, have you completely missed the fact that we rip into people for stupidity here?

You got off lightly, and you shouldn't be complaining.

Post by **Arcalane** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:43 am

Hey, I was just quoting Anna from the IRC channel.

What's the moral of this lesson? Don't try to get creative with making your own FTL. It doesn't really work.

Deltaflyer · Post by **Deltaflyer** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:50 am

Can I have a comment on the ship I just posted, not my imagination running riot please?

Squishy · Post by **Squishy** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:05 am

For your concept, what I read was that using light as a kind of railroad, you use magnets to latch onto this rail (that is moving at C) and travel along this rail, making you go faster than C relative to a stationary point.

There are two problems with this:

Newton's second law on force and momentum, which can be used to determine factors like acceleration and mass. You're using light to accelerate. Novel idea.
Applying (gravitec) force onto light to gain momentum is impossible because light has no mass. Because of this, light can never be used as a mechanic to accelerate.

Wave-theory. Light does not move in a straight line, even in the absence of any other force. Riding something that behaves like light is inviting oneself to trip that as no predictable destination.

Nabaco · Post by **Nabaco** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:10 am

Deltaflyer wrote:Can I have a comment on the ship I just posted, not my imagination running riot please?

You has been denied by a lot of people.

New ship looks good but...I can't see any weapons...