[Monday 06th] [00:47] * th15 (~th15@Rizon-FDC42D19.kappa248.maxonline.com.sg) has joined #BSF
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <th15> mmmm
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <Natan_J> hi
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <danny420dale> ruh roh
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <Hades> Hello, th15.
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <th15> what happens when you open old ships with it?
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <danny420dale> hayooooo Sean *kiss*
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <th15> my computer just dies
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <danny420dale> nothing bad
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <Hades> Nothing.
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <SilverWingedSeraph> Hey, th15. Old ships work fine with it for me... SM3 ones, anyway.
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <th15> what? i get happy fun time on the screen
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <danny420dale> 'happy fun time'?
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <th15> it goes crazy
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <Soleil> Oh, th15 responded.
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <Hades> But you cannot load the ships with the special sprites in the regular ship maker, though.
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <SilverWingedSeraph> Although it shrinks the build area back down. :( Which makes me a sad panda.
[Monday 06th] [00:48] <danny420dale> ah ok
[Monday 06th] [00:49] <Soleil> Oh, hi.
[Monday 06th] [00:49] <th15> shrinks what back down?
[Monday 06th] [00:49] <Hege> Hey CT! The MegaBoomAlpha doesn't work in game
[Monday 06th] [00:49] <Kaelis> Greetings, th15.
[Monday 06th] [00:49] <Soleil> Yeah, it works fine to load old files into the new SB.
[Monday 06th] [00:49] <danny420dale> nice ship, derek
[Monday 06th] [00:49] <BoVinE> CT expanded the build area I believe.
[Monday 06th] [00:49] <Arcalane>
http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 6688#76688
[Monday 06th] [00:49] <HimuraKenshin> (Should we tell him that somebody has the source?)
[Monday 06th] [00:50] <Soleil> (Dude, nearly everyone has the source)
[Monday 06th] [00:50] <SilverWingedSeraph> Build area. CT expanded it to be 6144 pixels, I believe.
[Monday 06th] [00:50] <Arcalane> he already KNOWS, HK
[Monday 06th] [00:50] <Arcalane> I told him people went decompile crazy.
[Monday 06th] [00:50] <BoVinE> HK
[Monday 06th] [00:50] <SilverWingedSeraph> I am currently in the process of making a ship HUEG.
[Monday 06th] [00:50] <SilverWingedSeraph> Hueger than HUEG. GI-FUCKING-GANTIC.
[Monday 06th] [00:50] <danny420dale> to the point ECKS BAWKS HUEG looks like the Itty Bitty Titty Committee
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <HimuraKenshin> Big enough never to be playable.
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <SilverWingedSeraph> Exactly.
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <Soleil> So, th15, what do you say to us adding more sections?
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <Siber> (you realize that putting things in parens doesn't stop th15 from being able to read your messages, right?)
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <danny420dale> (yes we do)
[Monday 06th] [00:51] * ~Arcalane throttles CT.
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <HimuraKenshin> (No shit)
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <SilverWingedSeraph> (don't spoil their fun, Siber)
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <BoVinE> (th15 i love you)
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <danny420dale> (bawww!)
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <Hades> (People love the fun)
[Monday 06th] [00:51] * Hades|EVN is now known as Hades_
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <Arcalane> (so i herd u liek parenthesis)
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <HimuraKenshin> (*fap*fap*fap*fap*)
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <SilverWingedSeraph> Oy...
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <Arcalane> XD
[Monday 06th] [00:51] <danny420dale> vey
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Kaelis> (Shush, or th15'll start talking in parens and we won't be able to see it.)
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Arcalane> 3 for top, 1 for bottom. Hmm.
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Arcalane> (Maybe he already is)
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Siber> And so it was that, on that fateful, #BSF fucking exploded
[Monday 06th] [00:52] * Arcalane sets mode: +o th15
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <SilverWingedSeraph> Day.
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <HimuraKenshin> o.o
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Chiiro> on that fateful
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <th15> ...
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Arcalane> because someone's nick EXPIRED
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Arcalane> it won't auto-op
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <HimuraKenshin> th15 has mod powah!
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <th15> heh
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <th15> it's expired a few times over
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <danny420dale> KA-FUCKING-BEEEEEEEHEEEHEEEWWWWMMMM!!!
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Soleil> FEEL TEH POWA
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Arcalane> he should normally, but he didn't show up for so long the nick expired and it dropped off the reg. :|
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <Chiiro> I think it's time to calm down.
[Monday 06th] [00:52] <th15> there's a few issues with adding more sections
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <Chiiro> You people are much too excited today.
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <th15> performance issues
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <SilverWingedSeraph> Hey th15, have you seen my reactor? :)
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <Kaelis> Shush, people.
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <SilverWingedSeraph> It's shiiiney.
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <Chiiro> You'll give Rizon a heartattack with all this talking.
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <th15> a proper seciton selection method in the shipmaker
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <th15> portability and cross compatibility
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <HimuraKenshin> We dun care about performance issues :D
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <danny420dale> not any ol' reactor, but a REE'ACK'TORRR
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <th15> the problem with adding the sections now, is that it branches the code base
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <th15> so when I release the other two missions
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <th15> well then, we get fubar
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <danny420dale> ouch
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <Soleil> Mmm.
[Monday 06th] [00:53] <Arcalane> like you ever will :V
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <th15> because the sprite and object ids won't be the same by then
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <Chiiro> Don't have to be so edgy. :U
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <th15> it'd be pretty nasty
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <Kaelis> I think we all are will to suffer minor fubars like that in favor of new sections.
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <danny420dale> ayup
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <Natan_J> it's nice witht he cliffhanger right now though, really
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <th15> well if i could solve those problems i'd have done it already
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <Kaelis> *willing
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <th15> on the other hand
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <th15> if i did all this stuff for bsf
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <Soleil> What do you think of putting extra sections into a seperate folder?
[Monday 06th] [00:54] <th15> i might as well start from scratch and make it multiplayer
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <danny420dale> I wanna run my Firecontrol Module idea by you, Sean
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <Kaelis> Isnt that what you're doing atm? With BSF2?
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <danny420dale> oh, oops
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <Kaelis> I was certain BSF1 got ultimately abandoned.
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <Soleil> How's BSF2?
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <th15> shrug, i won't be developing that (since i can't do nuts in C)
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <HimuraKenshin> I think that the general community would rather you put effort into a new game engine than expanding this one.
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <Soleil> Yeah. We were pretty sure you would never touch BSF1 again.
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <th15> i mean, BSF is basically my first real project
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <th15> it's pretty messy
[Monday 06th] [00:55] <th15> have fun mucking with it CT
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <Soleil> BTW, i'm CT
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <th15> yes.
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <th15> i figured.
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <Soleil> ok.
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <Kaelis> Can anyone else muck with it too, apart from CT? =)
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <HimuraKenshin> Do you have BSF copyrighted?
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <th15> its on CCL anyways
[Monday 06th] [00:56] * Natan_J hopes so.
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <th15> not that Singapore recognizes the CCL
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <danny420dale> I think there's our cue to GO NUTZ, CT
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <th15> so technically it's pointless
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <Soleil> So th15 approves . . .
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <Soleil> PARTY!!!!!
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <danny420dale> CCL? oh
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <Arcalane> I wouldn't take that as approval per se
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <danny420dale> Creative Commons
[Monday 06th] [00:56] * ~Arcalane shrugs
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <Hege> :O
[Monday 06th] [00:56] <SilverWingedSeraph> It has a Creative Commons License... wait, Singapore doesn't recognise CCL? That's... um... silly.
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <th15> to my knowledge know
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <Arcalane> singapore is very silly, SWS
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <th15> it still comes under our automatic copyrights
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <Arcalane> at least from what we've heard
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <SilverWingedSeraph> Everywhere is a little silly.
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <th15> which are shared with the US and... well everyone who matters
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <danny420dale> also, is there any way to let everyone unequivocally know all my spritez I made are CCLed?
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <Kaelis> Is there anything specific you wouldnt want us to do as far as developing/modding BSF/SM goes?
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <Soleil> Well, we get people like th15, and then we get people like MC. It's a crazy, mixed-up country. :v
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <danny420dale> LOL
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <th15> umm mainly keep it quiet actually
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <SilverWingedSeraph> XD
[Monday 06th] [00:57] <Kaelis> Apart from obvious stuff, of course.
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <th15> because if the company licenses the game
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <th15> it might include ownership of the source
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <danny420dale> ...OUCH
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <HimuraKenshin> We can keep it solely to IRC o.o
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <th15> if it wasn't for that i would jsut put it up
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <SilverWingedSeraph> And if the sourcecode is smeared all over the web, makes it hard to give someone the ownership.
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <danny420dale> thought BSF2's copyright wouldn't affect BSF1
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <Soleil> Your company owns BSF now?
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <th15> dunno, still talking about that
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <Kaelis> Can we post modified versions on Wyrdysm?
[Monday 06th] [00:58] <th15> it's unlikely that i'd keep ip though
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <SilverWingedSeraph> That's worrying.
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <danny420dale> very
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <Kaelis> Indeed.
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <HimuraKenshin> Wait, so a BSF2 licensing would include BSF source ownership?
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <th15> shrug, im not particularly attached to it
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <th15> i don't really think ideas are that precious
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <Arcalane> not sure WHY they'd want the GM source
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <th15> valuable, but not precious
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <th15> ill just come up with something new
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <Arcalane> it being th15's spaghetti code :V
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <th15> shrug, yea i wouldn't know either
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <th15> but it might come up
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <Kaelis> Point is... WE are attached =)
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <Natan_J> mmm, spaghetti code
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <SilverWingedSeraph> If BSF2 isn't your intellectual property, and isn't made by people who love the game, and stuff like that... I fear of what may become of it.
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <th15> so yea i can't officially endorse it
[Monday 06th] [00:59] <Soleil> With alfredo.
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <Arcalane> spaghetti CODE, Natan, not spaghetti-o's
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <th15> but since i can'r stop you anyways
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <danny420dale> <can>what about porting BSF to, say, C (or a language the coders here know)?</can>
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <HimuraKenshin> I'm all up for keeping it IRC specific anyways. :P
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <th15> it doesn't really matter does it
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <Kaelis> Can we post modified versions on Wyrdysm?
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <th15> i'd prefer it if there was some clear distinction
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <danny420dale> not 2, just 1
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <Kaelis> You can stop us from distributing it through Wyrdysm.
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <Soleil> Yeah.
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <th15> so thatt people don't try to load the data on non-modified versions
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <Siber> Someone hax the loading screens!
[Monday 06th] [01:00] <Arcalane> well this is why I've been calling it the Community Edition
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <Siber> Grafiti them up
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <Soleil> We can make the distinction pretty clear.
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <SilverWingedSeraph> SMCE. Has a catchy ring to it.
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <danny420dale> ayup
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <HimuraKenshin> BSFCE?
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <th15> im not really sure how to handle it
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <th15> just do it i guess
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <Kaelis> For the third time: Can we post modified versions on Wyrdysm?
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <Siber> Ship Maker Criminal Edition! w00t
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <Kaelis> Lol.
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <Arcalane> in before rave
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <danny420dale> LMAO SIBER
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <th15> as long as it's a different format kaeli
[Monday 06th] [01:01] <Soleil> I thought it was Custom Edition, myself.
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <HimuraKenshin> Community Edition :|
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <Kaelis> As in, different ship file format?
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <danny420dale> sb4?
[Monday 06th] [01:02] * ~Arcalane is now listening to: Just Do It Up - [00:12/02:20]
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <HimuraKenshin> Eww
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <Kaelis> sbc - c for criminal
[Monday 06th] [01:02] * ~Arcalane dances.
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <danny420dale> YEAH
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <Kaelis> Im all for calling it like that.
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <danny420dale> GG KAE
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <th15> and arca, did you turn off glow for that shot?
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <Arcalane> yeah
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <Arcalane> I have glow off all the time
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <th15> well then you can't tell the difference
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <Arcalane> you can
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <th15> the powerups are rendered using the same code
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <Arcalane> the fake is darker WAITIDIDN'TSAYTHAT
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <Arcalane> :V
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <HimuraKenshin> .sb69
[Monday 06th] [01:02] <th15> except that the centre doesn't have glow
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <Arcalane> the top one is a ship
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <Arcalane> and it has a megadamage beamer
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <th15> yea that would've been my guess
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <Arcalane> the core is custom coloured to make it look like a powerup on the minimap c:
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <Arcalane> and the center doesn't counterrotate
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <th15> well we can't tell that from a screenshot can we
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <Arcalane> that's the idea
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <Kaelis> th15 - is there anything we SHOULDNT do as far as adding new features/content goes? Or can we do anything we like? BSF FPS?
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <Arcalane> you're meant to guess
[Monday 06th] [01:03] <Arcalane> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <danny420dale> lulz
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <danny420dale> BSF FPS?
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <Soleil> If you have any caveats, th15, tell us now.
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <danny420dale> how would that work?
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <th15> huh what?
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <HimuraKenshin> I'm fairly sure making BSF into a FPS would require a new game. :|
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <Kaelis> Yeah. FPS in 2d space. Everythings flat.
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <Kaelis> It was just an example.
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <th15> that kinda precludes it being first person
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <Soleil> BOOM CORESHOT
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <Chiiro> more like TPS right...
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <Siber> Hacking in keyboard controls for ships would be awesome
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <Kaelis> I mean, ultimately its your game. Your baby. There are surely things you wouldnt like to see.
[Monday 06th] [01:04] <danny420dale> oh DEF
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <Siber> wasd movement, mouse targeting, mebe
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <Soleil> Oooh . . . keyboard-controlled ships . . .
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <danny420dale> like Giganto-penis ships-- oh wait
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <Chiiro> Also wow aren't we getting ambitious. :x
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <Kaelis> wsad - oh yes thats so gonna happen
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <Siber> And of course articulation and turrets
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <Arcalane> BB has that covered, danny
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <BoVinE> wasd
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <BoVinE> I want eet
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <th15> the issue with all that
[Monday 06th] [01:05] <th15> is that we'd end up with like a whoel bunch of branches
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <danny420dale> <Siber> wasd movement <== moar like programmable movements!)
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <th15> and they'd be impossible to recombine
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <BoVinE> ah
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <Kaelis> Not necessarily. If we organize and centralize our efforts...
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <Siber> th15, there are community developed games out there
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <Siber> They... do happen.
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <th15> badly, more often than not.
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <th15> what was that game that atari was doing
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <BoVinE> hey, shump style would be kinda cool too.
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <Siber> If you say so
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <th15> that was designed by popular vote
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <Kaelis> If we actually agree to work together, there shouldnt be a problem with branches.
[Monday 06th] [01:06] <Arcalane> this is why I was telling people to not go off diverging
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <Siber> Oh, popular vote is a road to fail
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <danny420dale> keep the forking to a minimum
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <Arcalane> (a while back)
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <th15> design vision ended up something like this: off road animal racing with something something
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <Soleil> We need to designate specific people to work on it.
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <danny420dale> eh wat!?
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <SilverWingedSeraph> I'll be the coordinator! ^_^ I can't do shit else, so I'
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <th15> well, i can't support any modifications
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <danny420dale> I've already shown I can do spritez
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <th15> which means nothing on the front page or game page
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <th15> and no forum for it
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <SilverWingedSeraph> I'll just say "okay, do that, don't do that, whatever"
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <Chiiro> lol SWS wants to be a superhuman!
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <th15> so just post it in etc or something
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <Soleil> Actually . . . second thought. Only people with pro edition of GM can mod BSF and SB.
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <Kaelis> Ive only seen two people willling to work on it so far, CT - you and me.
[Monday 06th] [01:07] <th15> GM is all of 24US
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <th15> plus it's not hard to get a cracked one
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <danny420dale> yarrrrr
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <Soleil> True.
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <th15> same as how it wasn't very difficult to decompile
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <Arcalane> yeah, but I doubt you'll get many people wanting to do bad things with the code
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <Soleil> But getting a pro edition for free is actually illegal, I beleive.
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <th15> that's another thing
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <Kaelis> No forum for it - what do you mean? No forum specifically for SM modification?
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <Arcalane> ewspaghetti and all that :p
[Monday 06th] [01:08] <Soleil> We could make a seperate forum for the mod.
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <th15> i can't guarantee that mods will be safe for your computer
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <danny420dale> maybe make it a private usergroup on wyrd
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <BoVinE> Kael, I'd like to work on it, but theres the whole, wth is GMC part of the process.
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <Siber> The decompiler could be actually illegal, too, CT
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <Kaelis> Of course. "This mod is not endorsed by th15", end of the story.
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <th15> oh right
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <Kaelis> The decompiler IS illegal
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <Arcalane> danny; with a hidden forum?
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <th15> don't put it on the gmc either? that'd get messy real quick
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <Arcalane> well yeah
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <Arcalane> that'd be common sense
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <Soleil> Yeah, make a seperate usergroup on Wyrd and give us access to a separate part of the forum.
[Monday 06th] [01:09] <danny420dale> yeah, hidden forum
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <th15> yea you could do that i guess
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <Arcalane> I can do that, if it's okay with th15
[Monday 06th] [01:10] * Natan_J wants in on the secret BSF society
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <Kaelis> Unless you said youve given us the source, yeah...
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <Hege> :/
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <Arcalane> wouldn't take more than a few minutes to set up
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <Soleil> ELITIST BSF FTW
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <danny420dale> call it The Basement Laboratory or summat
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <BoVinE> ^meth lab
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <Hege> Hell if you guys are gona mod BSF..
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <Kaelis> Does it really need to be hidden? I don't like the idea of keeping it to a closed group.
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <Soleil> It can't be public access, Kaelis.
[Monday 06th] [01:10] <Hege> I'd be happy to help out
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <Kaelis> Okay, another idea: we make a separate forum, and link to it on Wyrdysm?
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <danny420dale> make it 'only regged users can see, only people IN THE UG can post'
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <SilverWingedSeraph> Well it's either that, or shouting to the world that th15 and if not supports then tolerates people spreading around his source code and making edits.
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <th15> oh, ideally, i'd like you guys to stop mentioning that it's decompiled, just say you acquired it somewhere
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <th15> the real danger is people modifying the .shp files
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <th15> and deleting people's hard drives.
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <th15> because it's entirely possible.
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <Kaelis> Putting it on wyrdysm isnt exactly shouting it to the world.
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <danny420dale> oh ick
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <Siber> ...
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <Arcalane> D:
[Monday 06th] [01:11] <Soleil> Yeah . . .
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Hades_> Ruh roh
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Siber> Wait, what the fuck?
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <danny420dale> that's a Bad Thing
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Hades_> Yeah.
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <SilverWingedSeraph> Shouting to anyone who cares about BSF's sourcecode being public knowledge.
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Hege> ....What the..
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Soleil> We'll have to take steps to prevent that.
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <BoVinE> wow
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <th15> .shp files are encoded script files
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <th15> so they are actually executed
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <danny420dale> oh ok
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Kaelis> What? Formating harddrive through shp? Is that possible?!
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Kaelis> My god...
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <BoVinE> I've had to maximize my screen we're taling so much.
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Soleil> Yup.
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <th15> i've taken a fair bit of pain to prevent that from happening
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <th15> but with modified game files
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Kaelis> That needs to be changed quickly.
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <th15> that's entirely not my responsibility
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Siber> What kind of script?
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <th15> it's GM script
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Natan_J> GML
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Hege> I wouldnt realy worry about it though
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <th15> it just runs it
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <Soleil> That will be first on the list. Some way to prevent that.
[Monday 06th] [01:12] <th15> it's impossible to do now
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <Natan_J> there's a delete file/folder function
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <SilverWingedSeraph> Honestly, I think the sourcecode should probably be restricted to the people who have it. It shouldn't be spread around. :/
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <th15> but if someone modifies the code
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <th15> then he could easily remove that
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <Hege> If you make a shp file that formats your harddrive, how you are gona get it online, if it well, formats your harddrive?
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <Kaelis> Agreed, Seraph.
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <Arcalane> Hege; by not running it
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <Arcalane> duh
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <Soleil> See, THATS why we need an invitation-only forum.
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <Arcalane> same as you don't run a virus you made on your own PC
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <th15> well yea
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <th15> and .shp files being script files
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <th15> is the only reason why they've been compatible all along
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <th15> because they just figure themselves out
[Monday 06th] [01:13] <danny420dale> ah ok
[Monday 06th] [01:14] <danny420dale> neat trick
[Monday 06th] [01:14] <HimuraKenshin> From what I see, we can't publicly acknowledge in any way through Wyrdysm that we have this hacked version.
[Monday 06th] [01:14] <Kaelis> We just need to change the saving method. Requires work, but its not impossible. I had saving in place for SMA, i know how to do it.
[Monday 06th] [01:14] <HimuraKenshin> It would fall on th15 to delete any threads about it and ban the respective users.
[Monday 06th] [01:14] <Arcalane> or me
[Monday 06th] [01:14] <Natan_J> we'd have to slog through the main BSF code to load them too then, though
[Monday 06th] [01:14] <Kaelis> Its certainly not an argument to keep modded BSF just to ourselves.
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <Soleil> We do have Arca, HK.
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <SilverWingedSeraph> Or me.
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <Soleil> or AD
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <BoVinE> hahaha
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <SilverWingedSeraph> Well, not bad.
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <HimuraKenshin> Exactly my point.
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <SilverWingedSeraph> *ban
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <BoVinE> oh
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <BoVinE> I thought that was what you were lobbying for :\
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <HimuraKenshin> If we posted a link to this secret forum, it would need to be deleted.
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <Kaelis> Is that really necessary? =|
[Monday 06th] [01:15] <_Derekiv_> just put it on irc
[Monday 06th] [01:16] <BoVinE> I bet if arcalane gave me I link to the mod lounge, I couldn't get in.
[Monday 06th] [01:16] <Kaelis> Seriously, whats the point of the whole thing if only a few selected can use it?
[Monday 06th] [01:16] <HimuraKenshin> That's not what I'm saying.
[Monday 06th] [01:16] <HimuraKenshin> We can always make an off-site forum for this.
[Monday 06th] [01:16] <Kaelis> It would end with this in practice.
[Monday 06th] [01:16] <Siber> The implication is clear
[Monday 06th] [01:16] <SilverWingedSeraph> "Few selected". The IRC gets plenty of traffic.
[Monday 06th] [01:16] <Soleil> We need to have a way where anyone can get the mod, but not make virus .shp files easier than usual.
[Monday 06th] [01:16] <Hege> Let others use the modded things but don't let them mod them?
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <Siber> If th15 can't let it go on on his forum without endangering his interests, you would have to make a new forum.
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <Natan_J> 'select few' would then become the trusted coders
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <HimuraKenshin> Any forum that acknowledges this hacked version cannot be modded by th15, or we have future copyright issues.
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <Arcalane> FF doesn't like advanced controls. Go to the index and tell me if ya'll can see the Shipmaker's Hall
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <Kaelis> Now that theres the decompiler everyone can mess with .shps, theres no way for us to prevent that
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <Arcalane> if you're not a mod/admin
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <Soleil> Nope.
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <Kaelis> All we can do is change the save format
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <BoVinE> nope
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <Arcalane> Kae; people can easily find it, it's been around for ages
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <SilverWingedSeraph> I can't even see it.
[Monday 06th] [01:17] <danny420dale>
http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 6694#76694 DO. NOT. TELL. HIM. please
[Monday 06th] [01:18] <Natan_J> but now it's much more #BSF public knowledge
[Monday 06th] [01:18] <BoVinE> lol, just delete his post
[Monday 06th] [01:18] <Kaelis> CT: i think you spoke too soon.
[Monday 06th] [01:18] <Soleil> I refrained from telling him exactly where, yes.
[Monday 06th] [01:18] <HimuraKenshin> Just ban "FIREST0RM000" from here right now.
[Monday 06th] [01:18] <Kaelis> It would be better to clarify that theres nothing solid yet or delete the post altogether...
[Monday 06th] [01:19] <BoVinE> if this gets going, we need a +s channel or something
[Monday 06th] [01:19] <danny420dale> brb folding laundry
[Monday 06th] [01:19] <Soleil> Start a new channel.
[Monday 06th] [01:19] <Arcalane> this channel IS +s
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <Soleil> #SBMod or something.
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <Kaelis> Ultimately my point is: make the mod itself readily available through wyrdys, linking to a separate forum/site, for example. Source/decompiler/info stays here.
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <HimuraKenshin> No, we can't do that.
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <HimuraKenshin> It would still fall to th15 to have to delete that link.
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <danny420dale> anyone else I'd not have problems with, but this is Firestorm
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <Kaelis> Then we are the only ones using it.
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <HimuraKenshin> Mass PMs?
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <HimuraKenshin> :P
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <Soleil> Oi, no.
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <Kaelis> Just had that idea...
[Monday 06th] [01:20] <BoVinE> #bsfce or #smce I'd say
[Monday 06th] [01:21] <Siber> Just because you can't post on the offical forums doesn't mean word can't spread
[Monday 06th] [01:21] <Kaelis> Well its better than just not telling anyone =|
[Monday 06th] [01:21] <SilverWingedSeraph> Fun little thing called "word of mouth".
[Monday 06th] [01:21] <Chiiro> Enthusiasts that'll be able to make proper use of this mod will probably find their way on here.
[Monday 06th] [01:21] <HimuraKenshin> I vote for #BSF-U
[Monday 06th] [01:21] <HimuraKenshin> For BSF Underground.
[Monday 06th] [01:21] <Kaelis> BSFC, please.
[Monday 06th] [01:21] <Siber> #BSFGangsta
[Monday 06th] [01:21] * %Siber is so terribly helpful today
[Monday 06th] [01:22] <Hege> Noticed
[Monday 06th] [01:22] <Arcalane> adding members to the guildlist
[Monday 06th] [01:22] <Hades_> hM.
[Monday 06th] [01:22] <Hades_> Hm.*
[Monday 06th] [01:22] <BoVinE> soo
[Monday 06th] [01:22] <Kaelis> So we just pm people?
[Monday 06th] [01:22] <BoVinE> delete FS's post?
[Monday 06th] [01:22] <Chiiro> Siber does not approve of this idea.
[Monday 06th] [01:22] <Natan_J> why?
[Monday 06th] [01:23] <Siber> It's not that I don't approve
[Monday 06th] [01:23] <Kaelis> I don't see any other solution with linking to it on wyrdysm ruled out.
[Monday 06th] [01:23] <Siber> I just enjoy taking potshots
[Monday 06th] [01:23] <BoVinE>
http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 6642#76642 also has to be deleted for decom mention.
[Monday 06th] [01:23] <Arcalane> alright
[Monday 06th] [01:23] <Arcalane> the hall should be open to handful of you now
[Monday 06th] [01:23] <Kaelis> Hall...?
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <Siber> I SHOULDN'T BE SEEING THIS!
[Monday 06th] [01:24] * %Siber scoops out his own eyes
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <Arcalane> it's under the Mod Lounge
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <HimuraKenshin> Me, Arca?
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <Arcalane> no because you suck :V
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <Hege> Seemingly not me.
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <HimuraKenshin> :|
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <HimuraKenshin> :(
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <_Derekiv_> :'(
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <Kaelis> Oh hey, im in. I feel so ganstariffic now.
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <BoVinE> sorry
[Monday 06th] [01:24] <Kaelis> Like, mario inna future pal!
[Monday 06th] [01:25] <SilverWingedSeraph> A movement is starting...
[Monday 06th] [01:25] <BoVinE> really wanted first post
[Monday 06th] [01:25] <HimuraKenshin> Heh
[Monday 06th] [01:25] <Soleil> I see it.
[Monday 06th] [01:25] <HimuraKenshin> I found it?
[Monday 06th] [01:25] <HimuraKenshin> o.o
[Monday 06th] [01:25] <Kaelis> Okay i guess well figure out distribution later.
[Monday 06th] [01:25] * BoVinE is now known as BoV|afk
[Monday 06th] [01:25] <Kaelis> If all else fails, ill be mailing people myself...
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <BoV> with stamps and letters!
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <Hege> :/
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <Arcalane> ahahaha
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <Chiiro> Do we have a list of things that need done for this?
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <Arcalane> 2666
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <BoV> later guys
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <BoV> Kael, I'd work on mods too
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <Kaelis> Okay, big problem i just realized. What about showcasing ships made with it?
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <SilverWingedSeraph> Trust me, distribution won't be a problem. I guarantee even if it's not posted publically, most people will end up getting their hands on it.
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <Hege> Well if you guys ever fix MegaBoomAlpha, tell me, I want to use my mega sun reactor
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <Arcalane> we can do so in the guild?
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <Kaelis> So, again, elitist corner?
[Monday 06th] [01:26] <th15> well there is another solution
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <th15> i just add the sections to bsf officially
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <th15> heh.
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <Kaelis> I want the infidels to see my awesome ships =|
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <SilverWingedSeraph> About as elitist as wallmart.
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <th15> down side is that you'll have to wait somewhat
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <Kaelis> Its not just about sections, th15.
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <Siber> It'll move to a public venue off of Wydrysm before too long, I'm sure
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <th15> i need to finish a project for IGF
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <th15> deadline is nov 1st
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <HimuraKenshin> We're modding this as much as we can. :D
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <Kaelis> Im hoping to add stuff like turrets and moving sections, ultimately.
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <BoV> oooh
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <BoV> igf
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <Arcalane> th15; another IGF project?
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <th15> yea, carpe
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <Arcalane> ahhh
[Monday 06th] [01:27] <th15> then maybe another one
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <Arcalane> and like you'd ever add the sections officially. :V
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <th15> hopfuly, but unlikely
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <Hege> So you guys aiming to add completely new turrets and sections on this or something?
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <th15> since i need a fair bit of art for that other project i have in mind
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <Arcalane> evne though I've been a nice bloke and manually converted a lot of sprites to the correct colour formats
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <SilverWingedSeraph> While things are under development, it's best to keep it all under wraps anyway. Once it's completed, we'll start an off-site forum and direct people there. But subtly.
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <Kaelis> I am, Hege.
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <th15> shrug adidng sections would take all of about 1 hour
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <danny420dale> back
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <Hege> In that case, I would have wanted to help in this. Seeing how I have a lot of spriting experience.
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <Arcalane> I already have an archive pack with some of the best picks in the proper colours
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <th15> the version of BSF on my computer is v0.89 anyways
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <Arcalane> (with the correct transparency colour, I mean)
[Monday 06th] [01:28] <th15> i just haven't gotten around to testing and releasing it
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Kaelis> Strart cranking up sprites then, Hege.
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Arcalane> you cad
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <SilverWingedSeraph> HOLDING OUT ON US! :P
[Monday 06th] [01:29] * @SilverWingedSeraph snickers.
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <th15> i fixed the pointbeam colour thing some time ago :)
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Hege> Throw me a wish list
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Arcalane> hah
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <th15> yea but the changelog is all of 6 lines or something
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Kaelis> Anyone remember dodonpachi sprites? I think im gonna port those to BSF, too.
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <th15> doesn't feel right to be releasing
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Arcalane> hahaha
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <HimuraKenshin> Hahahaha
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <BoV> just say .88 bugfix or something :P
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Arcalane> Kae; they'd be totally out of place IMO
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Kaelis> Hege: No wishlist for you. Go wild.
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Arcalane> .88a
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Hege> 'k
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Arcalane> or something
[Monday 06th] [01:29] <Kaelis> Not if we modified the whole BSF style.
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <HimuraKenshin> You can't release .88a
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <Arcalane> we've had letter-variants before
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <Arcalane> .88b then
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <HimuraKenshin> After several months of inactivity
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <Arcalane> nub
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <danny420dale> <Hege> Throw me a wish list /me throws
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/E ... ever/Misc/ and the pass 'epiclulz' at you
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <Arcalane> wait I know
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <Arcalane> .88z
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <Arcalane> :V
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <BoV> :u
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <Arcalane> because we've fallen asleep waiting for it
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <HimuraKenshin> After several months of inactivity?
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <Hege> I can try crack up some sections and turrets during the week and PM them to you. Will I limit myself to the archive section adding rules or more freelance?
[Monday 06th] [01:30] <BoV> I'll talk about what I can do later on
[Monday 06th] [01:31] * Kaelis (
cgiirc@Rizon-C030FDA1.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit:
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[Monday 06th] [01:31] <th15> tell you what
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <th15> split up the sprites for me into gifs of the right colour
[Monday 06th] [01:31] * Kaelis (
cgiirc@Rizon-C030FDA1.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #BSF
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <SilverWingedSeraph> Man, I'm just staring at this and I have no idea where to even START when it comes to building a ship around it: N
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <SilverWingedSeraph> [10:31] <SilverWingedSeraph> I have 3 of th
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <Arcalane> I already HAVE
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <th15> and 80x80 and everything
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <Arcalane> one moment, th15
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <SilverWingedSeraph> Ek.
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <th15> well, send me a zip
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <Arcalane> I'm about it
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <SilverWingedSeraph>
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj18 ... eactor.png
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <th15> ill try to put them in
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <Kaelis> Damit, sorry.
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <th15> and send me bovines grid or whatever
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <Arcalane> here
[Monday 06th] [01:31] <Arcalane>
http://www.box.net/shared/3557bhjmky
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <th15> actually ct
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Soleil> I think we need to further refine the sections . . .
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Kaelis> Hege: im not aware of any rules.
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <th15> just send me the thing heh
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Arcalane> that's a pack of a fuckton of sections
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <th15> then ill just release that officially
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Arcalane> like 20-30 something
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Kaelis> Sweet.
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Arcalane>
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o247 ... eet_v2.png
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Hades_> Dayum!
[Monday 06th] [01:32] * LS|AFK is now known as Lightstriker
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Kaelis> Although we might end up just adding custom section import functionality, you know.
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Arcalane> I misnamed 59 by accident but everything else should be fine
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Hege> Kael, the rules are basicly what th15 listed
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <danny420dale> hehehehe!
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <_Derekiv_> maybe fix the core so it has a 1 pixel center line
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <th15> actually transparency colour is like 0,0,1 or something arca
[Monday 06th] [01:32] <Kaelis> And we need to learn how to add them anyway.
[Monday 06th] [01:32] * @SilverWingedSeraph snerks.
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Lightstriker> wait, what is currently being worked on?
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <th15> ill just add a new core
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Arcalane> th15; wut.
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <danny420dale> wut
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <th15> changing the core now would mess up old ships
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Soleil> I think a custom section mod would be best.
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <SilverWingedSeraph> Lightstriker: What isn't being worked on?
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Hege> I'll just work with them
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Kaelis> Hege: Oh, those. Yeah, for now stick to them. Try to stick to BSF style, although you can deviate a bit.
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Lightstriker> true. :D
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <th15> nevermind arca, ill fix it
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Hege> okey then
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Arcalane> well, either way, the bits you'll need to make transparent should all be nice and green
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Arcalane> so you can't miss 'em
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Soleil> LS: You fail.
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Lightstriker> oh, hello th15
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Lightstriker> harsh...
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <SilverWingedSeraph> Get used to it.
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Soleil> Damn right.
[Monday 06th] [01:33] <Lightstriker> heh
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Arcalane> we go to all this and then we get undermined :V figures
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Hege> I'll be making various little sprites then and try mimic the BSF style for the best I can.
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <SilverWingedSeraph> We are harsh to make you STRONG.
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <danny420dale> Iron Sharpens Iron or some such shit :P
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Lightstriker> hm, don't think it's working :D you never know though
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Soleil> We make you better, faster, stronger, HARDER!
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Lightstriker> lol
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Arcalane> LS isn't iron, he's a flannel.
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Arcalane> a WET flannel
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <danny420dale> BAWWWWWW
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <danny420dale> LOL
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Kaelis> Hege: try doing some dodonpachi-style sprites if you want a challenge =)
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Arcalane> except without the slap-power.
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Soleil> Wet tissue paper.
[Monday 06th] [01:34] <Lightstriker> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <danny420dale> lol dodonpachi
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Lightstriker> I will be soggy all over your ass
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <HimuraKenshin> Holy shit
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Hege> dodonpachi?
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <HimuraKenshin> I tab out to see something for a second
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Kaelis> Wait one...
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <SilverWingedSeraph> Arca: I have no doubt that BSF:CE will continue at full speed.
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Hades_> LS; I'm going to kill you.
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Arcalane> :p
[Monday 06th] [01:35] * `HimuraKenshin was kicked by Arcalane (TOWEL SLAP OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM)
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <danny420dale> *ouch*
[Monday 06th] [01:35] * `HimuraKenshin (~Renegades@Rizon-23ED3E5D.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) has joined #BSF
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <HimuraKenshin> :|
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Lightstriker> I get that a lot Hades. don't worry about it
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Arcalane> <:
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <HimuraKenshin> Why'd you kick me?
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Arcalane> because
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Hades_> 'Cause
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Kaelis> Hege:
http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj31 ... elart/ddp/
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Hades_> He felt like it
[Monday 06th] [01:35] <Hege> oh that bullet hell game. D:
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <Kaelis>
http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj31 ... xelart/dp/
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <Arcalane> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <Soleil> Pixels of win, that's what they are.
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <Kaelis> Yup. With absolutely spectacular sprites.
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <SilverWingedSeraph> I still think all the major stuff should be handled by Kaelis and CT, and that everyone else should just like... make suggestions. :/ And also, no fuckin' spreading the sourcecode 'round any more than it already is, plz. :P
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <HimuraKenshin> I was just going to say that I had to scroll up my maximized mIRC window to see everything that was said.
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <HimuraKenshin> After only tabbing out for ~15 seconds.
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <Arcalane> SWS; well yeah
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <Hades_>
http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj31 ... t=big8.png I wuv this
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <Arcalane> makes sense to me
[Monday 06th] [01:36] <Lightstriker> sounds good to me
[Monday 06th] [01:37] <Soleil> :/
[Monday 06th] [01:37] <Hege> Hmmm... I'll try see if I can mimic some of those sections
[Monday 06th] [01:37] <SilverWingedSeraph> 'Cause if we have liek 50 people all fuckin' around with the Sourcecode, you just know shit's gonna go to hell.
[Monday 06th] [01:37] <Kaelis> Goes without saying.
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <Kaelis> We should generally organize ourself into a proper project, methinks.
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <_Derekiv_> thing is people have to download for it to go to hell
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <SilverWingedSeraph> And yet, I said it. 'Cause today is my Capt. Obvious day.
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <th15> 3$%^@%&^KYJGJ# 4
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <Soleil> We'll have BSF v00f6f8dnd7
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <Lightstriker> that would be nice
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <th15> 56i love these planes
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <Lightstriker> whoa...
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <th15>
http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj31 ... elart/ddp/
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <th15> who did them?
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <HimuraKenshin> Me
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <Hades_> Those are ripped from a game.
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <Kaelis> Theyre from a game called dodonpachi
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <Hege> They are from a game
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <Arcalane> I think th15 just had a nerdgasm.
[Monday 06th] [01:38] <Hades_> Not sure which game they were rippe- ah, yes.
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <th15> what? that's dodonpachi?
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <th15> hmm
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <Kaelis> donpachi and dodonpachi, to be exact
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <th15> fuck, need to go find the rom
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <Kaelis> =)
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <Hades_> brb
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <Lightstriker> sounds good
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <Arcalane>
http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 6702#76702
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <Kaelis> Its just a bullet hell anyway
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <SilverWingedSeraph> Lightstriker, you seen my POWAR CORE?
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <Hege> Like said earlier, that bullet hell game.
[Monday 06th] [01:39] <Kaelis> Its so thick you don't even see the sprites
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Lightstriker> @SWS- um, yeah
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Soleil> There's more versions of dodonpachi as well.
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Lightstriker> I was talking to you about it?
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Kaelis> Yeah, but for PS2, PS3
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Lightstriker> and doing all the "oh yeah, it's this big" stuff
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Soleil> Do-Don-Pachi Dai-Fukkatsu
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Lightstriker> :D
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <SilverWingedSeraph> Oh right. Yeah.
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <SilverWingedSeraph> Silly me.
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Soleil> and DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Lightstriker> heh
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Arcalane> FLAMING BEES
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <SilverWingedSeraph> But you haven't seen THIS!
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj18 ... eactor.png
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Lightstriker> nope, I did
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Lightstriker> scrolled up a while ago
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <SilverWingedSeraph> Really? Balls.
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Lightstriker> sorry though
[Monday 06th] [01:40] <Lightstriker> heheh
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Soleil> Oh well.
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Kaelis> Hmm. Someone should figure out how to do BSF 3d.
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Lightstriker> for what it's worth, very cool :p
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Chiiro> in other news
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Chiiro> SWS is insane.
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Arcalane> In other news, we already knew.
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Kaelis> Thats 'old news'
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Lightstriker> um, no shit?
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <danny420dale>
http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 6704#76704
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Chiiro> Hey don't look at me I'm just the news anchor.
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Lightstriker> bad link danny
[Monday 06th] [01:41] <Chiiro> I don't pick what shit goes on the news.
[Monday 06th] [01:41] * @SilverWingedSeraph misses the days of "omg you're so awesome SWS I want your babies!" Stupid ego got too big for its own good.
[Monday 06th] [01:42] <Natan_J> those reactors make me wish for a containment breach to be possible
[Monday 06th] [01:42] * ~Arcalane points at SWS and laughs.
[Monday 06th] [01:42] <Lightstriker> @SWS- for what it's worth, I just supress it better now :D
[Monday 06th] [01:42] <danny420dale> <Lightstriker> bad link danny <== NO SHIT SH3RL0CK
[Monday 06th] [01:42] <_Derekiv_>
http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 6704#76704 hey it doesn't exist
[Monday 06th] [01:42] <Lightstriker> shush watson
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <Arcalane> well duh, you're not allowed into the forum
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <_Derekiv_> Natan_J: that would be an epic encounter
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <Arcalane> IT R SEEKLIT
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <SilverWingedSeraph> Natan_J: These will have containment breaches. If the containment field surrounding the reactors are destroyed, it will spray high-damage shrapnel in all directions.
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <_Derekiv_> protect the reactor from breach
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <Kaelis> Frack and dammit, i should really go now but theres too much awesome going on atm...
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <Lightstriker> so... confused...
[Monday 06th] [01:43] * Lightstriker prepares for the inevitable...
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <_Derekiv_> at arc: damn
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <Arcalane> wow, I think I actually got the rotation rate on the fake powerup right
[Monday 06th] [01:43] <Arcalane> or nearly right
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Arcalane> I set it to 1.5 as a guess
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Arcalane> it's ALMOST the right speed o_o
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Lightstriker> heh
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <th15> hey
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Natan_J> I was thinking more like poke a hole = BOOM!!!!
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <th15> isn't that myh sun sprite.
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <HimuraKenshin> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Lightstriker> yup
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <SilverWingedSeraph> Yuuuup. :D
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Arcalane> bit TOO slow, think
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Lightstriker> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Arcalane> it's great, isn't it th15?
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <_Derekiv_> xd
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <_Derekiv_> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <danny420dale> ha ha ha, oh wow
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <th15> Login to Photobucket
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <th15> Logging into album E-Sn0-31337 : battleships forever/Misc
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <th15> fail.
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Arcalane> ha ha, dangly parts!
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Hege> I allready had fun with it
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <danny420dale> pass is epiclulz
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Lightstriker> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Arcalane> th15; pass is epiclulz
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <danny420dale> NINJAPOAST!
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <th15> ironically the sun sprite isn't actually used on the sun
[Monday 06th] [01:44] <Arcalane> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:45] * danny420dale was kicked by Arcalane (ninja mah FOOT, bitch D:<)
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <Lightstriker> somewhat Ironic, yes.
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <Natan_J> what's it used on then?
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <th15> nothing
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <_Derekiv_> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <th15> i put it on the sun at one point
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <th15> it looked ass
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <Lightstriker> heh
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <th15> so i took it off
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <Kaelis> xD
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <Arcalane> it does look pretty ass-ish without additive
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <Hege>
http://i38.tinypic.com/2mhalvd.png with MegaBooms, the sun looks better IMO.
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <Arcalane> no offense
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <th15> yeap
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[Monday 06th] [01:45] <th15> generated using solarcell
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <SilverWingedSeraph> Pulsating aegised small explosion sprites are underneath the sun sprite on that ship, so it ripples and glows too.
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <danny420dale> AWWWWWW
[Monday 06th] [01:45] <danny420dale> LOL
[Monday 06th] [01:46] <th15> same as the planets are done using lunarcell
[Monday 06th] [01:46] <Lightstriker> oooohhhhh... aaaaaaahhhh...
[Monday 06th] [01:46] <Arcalane> SWS; nice
[Monday 06th] [01:46] <Hege> SWS, I did that same with dooblinkfaders on aegis
[Monday 06th] [01:46] <Arcalane> someone just outdid my goddamn doonoise reactors D:<
[Monday 06th] [01:46] * ~Arcalane throttles SWS
[Monday 06th] [01:46] <Lightstriker> psh, he did that first day he got doonoise :p
[Monday 06th] [01:46] <SilverWingedSeraph> Hege: Small explosions have a shockwave effect.
[Monday 06th] [01:46] <Lightstriker> did you see his gunbarrels?
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Kaelis> Hmm... modules generating sounds...
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Arcalane> shush
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[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Hege> Hmmm..
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Lightstriker> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <SilverWingedSeraph> looks awesome.
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <BoVinE> yay
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Arcalane> BoVinEgaR!
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <BoVinE> old computer ftw
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <danny420dale> <Lightstriker> did you see his gunbarrels? <== whose?
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Arcalane> SWS'
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Lightstriker> SWS's
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <danny420dale> ah, yeah
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Lightstriker> right, forgot you can't have the extra s...
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Lightstriker> good call there Arca
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <SilverWingedSeraph> Lightstriker: The gunbarrels aren't actually doonoises. They're the line ones. For animated goodness.
[Monday 06th] [01:47] <Lightstriker> ah, really? even sicker
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Arcalane> technically it's correct if you use fullname
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <BoVinE> wait BoVinEgaR?
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Arcalane> yes
[Monday 06th] [01:48] * ~Arcalane = bored
[Monday 06th] [01:48] * Lightstriker inserts blatant plug for his Alchemy guide
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Kaelis> Line tool in SM, for simply making lines - good idea?
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <danny420dale> = wants teh TURRETZ :D
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <BoVinE> but means what?
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Arcalane> ..for making lines how?
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Arcalane> I dunno BoV
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <BoVinE> line rider built in!
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Kaelis> Like, draw them?
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Lightstriker> heh
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Arcalane> why? D:
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Lightstriker> it might make outlining easier
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <danny420dale> who else read that as 'Lightstriker inserts butt plug'?
[Monday 06th] [01:48] <Kaelis> Additional detail you want to add?
[Monday 06th] [01:49] * ~Arcalane shrugs
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <Kaelis> Or just pixel tool
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <Lightstriker> ...thank you for that thought danny :D
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <danny420dale> p
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <danny420dale> w
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <danny420dale> n
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <danny420dale> 3
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <danny420dale> d
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <SilverWingedSeraph> D: But then people awesome at pixel art with start BEATING me!
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <BoVinE> so, Win98 can run mibbit apparently
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <Hege> you know if you'd add a line tool, I'd most likely wouldnt use sections at all. :|
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <danny420dale> brb
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <danny420dale> pixel tool!!2
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <Kaelis> Seraph: Thats the general idea, yeah.
[Monday 06th] [01:49] * Soleil (
cgiirc@Rizon-638936EB.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Quit:
http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <Arcalane> XD
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <Arcalane> what about collisions though?
[Monday 06th] [01:49] <SilverWingedSeraph> And making a ship entirely out of lines would be... wierd. How would they explode 'n' stuff?
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <Lightstriker> so... my ships would be even shittier by comparison... crud...
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[Monday 06th] [01:50] <Kaelis> Hege: They would behave like doodads, probably. Youd still need sections.
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <Hege> oh right
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <BoVinE> WE DON'T NEED NO COLLISIONS
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <Arcalane> that's what I figured, Kae
[Monday 06th] [01:50] * Hege gets an idea of a ghost ship with one section and rest doodads.
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <Soleil> Dammit. Hit F5 on the wrong tab. :/
[Monday 06th] [01:50] * BoVinE was kicked by Arcalane (What about Large Hadron Colliders?)
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <th15> i'd rather kjust figure out a way to do outlining cheaply
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <Lightstriker> old idea Hege, sorry though :D
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <SilverWingedSeraph> Normandy did that, actually.
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <Hege> aww
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[Monday 06th] [01:50] <th15> not really sure if i can though
[Monday 06th] [01:50] <Kaelis> Good idea, th15.
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <Lightstriker> yeah, that would be nice
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <danny420dale> lol ghost ship
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <Kaelis> Just pick sections that would be selectively outlined.
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <Arcalane> I haven't used ghost sections much
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <Kaelis> Not unlike the selection 'glow' in sm.
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <Arcalane> apart from that first tease
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <BoVinE> sectiondoodads are nice though
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <Kaelis> Also, transparency/blending for sections?
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <BoVinE> ^
[Monday 06th] [01:51] <SilverWingedSeraph> Glass ships!
[Monday 06th] [01:52] <danny420dale>
http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 6710#76710 OH SHI-
[Monday 06th] [01:52] <Kaelis> Yeah. With specular.
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