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Only 24 sections? No R/E template strings?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:56 am
by Triggerhappypilot
With the new shipbuilder (V4), it seems that the stock sections past 24 are missing. is this a bug of some kind, or am i missing something?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:59 am
by th15
Press Z and then 1 2 3 or 4. These a quick select boxes for seciton.s You can change what secitons they display oto.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:22 pm
by AnnihilatorX
Might as well ask a question about the new builder here.
Is the template copy and paste function removed? (E and R keys in the older v3)

I thought I could use this to quickly convert my ships from v3 to v4 :/

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:36 pm
by M123
th15 wrote:Press Z and then 1 2 3 or 4. These a quick select boxes for seciton.s You can change what secitons they display oto.
You should probably press ~ first to switch the 1/2/3/4 keys to "Group" mode.

So: press '~', then 'z', then 1, 2, 3 or 4.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:29 pm
by Arcalane
AnnihilatorX wrote:Might as well ask a question about the new builder here.
Is the template copy and paste function removed? (E and R keys in the older v3)

I thought I could use this to quickly convert my ships from v3 to v4 :/
Unfortunately, the mass of new features and settings made R and E nonfunctional at best, and incredibly buggy at worst. Sorry. :?

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:23 am
by thacannon
On the subject of hot keys, what ever happened to 'I' and 'K', the stretchy buttons?

Edit: fixed, I pressed some weird never-seen-before button that screwed up my keyboard (I was wondering why I couldn't copy anything)

(no, don't say sticky keys, otherwise it would show on the task bar)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:30 am
by Arcalane
They work fine for me? :?

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:24 am
by AnnihilatorX
Arcalane wrote:
AnnihilatorX wrote:Might as well ask a question about the new builder here.
Is the template copy and paste function removed? (E and R keys in the older v3)

I thought I could use this to quickly convert my ships from v3 to v4 :/
Unfortunately, the mass of new features and settings made R and E nonfunctional at best, and incredibly buggy at worst. Sorry. :?
Are there alternatives for the following scenario if that's the case? Say if you have placed some weapons then you change the stat of a single one and want to apply that change to all others. In the past I'd use template copy. What alternative is the most efficient in the above scenario? Ctrl+C only clones the weapon and you have to manually position the cloned weapons and delete the old ones so I don't think this is efficient.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:50 am
by Arcalane
Select the weapon you want to copy stats from and right click the weapon you want to copy stats to, then click "Paste Params". :P

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:51 am
by EadTaes
Also in the editor no matter how hard i try i can't get into the new models. The thing is my ~ key and an alt activated key. And i don't think the ship builder recognizes this. Their really should and alternative way to get there or a more convenient key used instead.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:58 am
by Arcalane
It's also under the Tools menu, and can be set in smconfig.ini - just look for the 1234mode line and set it to the opposite (it's a boolean; 1 is on, 0 is off), then save and start SM.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:17 am
by ODST
I know how to use "~" to get the section groups. my problem is trying to get to all the extra parts that don't show up in shipmaker in the custom sprites section (like that radar dish piece). Is drag-and-drop the only method to get those in?

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:32 am
by Arcalane
There are ways to add them to the section groups permanently (namely editing smsprites.ini :P) and we should have a tutorial in the next few days hopefully.

Loading ships from V3 to V4

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:43 pm
by DoomBringer
It seems that I can't load ships made with version 3 on to version 4? it just comes up with an error?

as follows

ERROR in
action number 1
of Draw Event
for object obj_section:

Trying to draw non-existing sprite.

Re: Loading ships from V3 to V4

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:12 pm
by Master Chief
DoomBringer wrote:It seems that I can't load ships made with version 3 on to version 4? it just comes up with an error?
Version 0.90 doesn't come with .sb3 support, so all your old ships have been rendered near-obsolete.