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Natch · Post by **Natch** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:42 am

Soltari Champs?

I don't see that in the downloads.

Also, like I said, team alpha begs to differ. Our frigates work. And well.

In fact, if you turn your back to one of them, and you don't have a deflector or sufficient PD coverage there, you WILL die.

DarkenShroud · Post by **DarkenShroud** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:47 am

Go 4 posts back, and look at the test ships I submitted for everyone to use(Soltari Champion). Feel free to get some ideas, or just abuse them and batter them.

Soltari Champs?

And yes vettes are viable in a few respects. But there just to fragile for my liking, but I agree they do have there uses. 4 Tasha's put out crazy amounts of firepower, so yeah corvettes are ok.

Sponge · Post by **Sponge** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:49 am

Don't worry, Natch. I'm a Frigate fan, so you'll be up against at least one

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Also: Who's replacing RT? I needs to update the roster.

Also Mk2: I finished the Round One "ladder." It's not really a ladder, but it will serve as one. I can still change it up if someone has a better idea, but I think this is the fairest way to do it. There are six fights, where each team fights every other team. I intend to run the at least two rounds of each fight just to make sure the results are consistent. Each win nets you a point, and the two highest scorers will move on. And I'll add a twist so the final round isn't decided going in.

If there is a tie, I'll think of something

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@DS (below me):
Yeah, thanks. Wrong letter.

DarkenShroud · Post by **DarkenShroud** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:52 am

Also: Who's replacing CT? I needs to update the roster.

? You mean Rogue Thunder ?

Cool Ladder !!!!

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... ampion.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... Slayer.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... Horror.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... ughter.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... Shield.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... oy_You.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... uckler.shp

Thank you for providing these test ships, DarkenShroud. Thanks to you, my ship has constantly been evolving to become just a little bit better

You are most welcome, but remeber these designs are not even half as good, as what I may submit.
I want everyone to be able to make some awsome ships, and everyone to be able to get some ideas from myself as well as there own team. 4 tasha's = 164 blasters and I could get more on there with alittle flirting.

Natch · Post by **Natch** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:04 pm

Thank you for providing these test ships, DarkenShroud. Thanks to you, my ship has constantly been evolving to become just a little bit better.

And just within the past 10 minutes or so, I was toying with weapon combos, and found an unusual combonation that works surprisingly well.

Not gonna say what it is though.

antisocialmunky · Post by **antisocialmunky** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:13 pm

Yeah, good work on them DarkShroud, look forward to the fights. Thanks for throwing some test ships out there for us.

Jafo · Post by **Jafo** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:29 pm

DarkenShroud wrote:Anyone making use of the test ships? I did rush them, but I feel there fairly well built. I may work on a few more here in abit that use some other weapon sets up that have been left out. That way you have ships to test against with all types of set ups. Hope they help, and give you all ideas, should have a few more to post here in a few.

Yep, I am. I got some ideas that I have been testing out after checking out the first three you supplied, so thanks for the kick in the thought process. Going to have to check out the latest ones too. Thanks!

TrashMan · Post by **TrashMan** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:39 pm

Time for me to actually start doing some shipwork again...been playing the Witcher for the past 3 days...lol

DarkenShroud · Post by **DarkenShroud** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:32 pm

Been playing Empire at War myself online, just waiting for my teamates at this point. Figured I had the time, why not help everyone else out too so we can make the battles the best they can possibly be. I'm really glad you all are digging the test ships, but they were built in like 15-20 minutes each. There all legal however, but not nearly as good as what I can produce. I actually made them flawed to ensure you don't see my true potential lol. My actual designs can beat these no sweat, so if you can too...then you know your on the right track.

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... ampion.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... Slayer.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... Horror.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... ughter.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... Shield.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... oy_You.shp

http://www.wyrdysm.com/battleshipsforev ... uckler.shp

antisocialmunky · Post by **antisocialmunky** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:39 am

Lol, the only one of the bunch that is decent against my new ships that I haven't sent to CT yet is Tasha. I wonder sometimes if you're trying to play mind games with us by releasing these test ships. You keep dropping lines like 'these are quickies that are weak and don't tell anything about my fleet but you know how I build my ships' or 'this is my first good frigate.'

It may just be my general dislike of "Section 26 brick ship with tons of weapons" but I wonder if you aren't trying to get everyone else to build to fight these slow bricks and aren't secretly amassing super fast fleet made of l33t and h4x instead of slow and BLARGIHASGUNS. Granted those brick ships are powerful, but they're really all quite the same after you look past the load out.

But that could just be the paranoia talking.

They are fun to watch explode though. *Waits for any PMs from CT and prepares to send a better batch of ships with ACCURATE point sheeds and are LEGAL* I counted 4 times this time. *sigh*

TrashMan · Post by **TrashMan** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:57 am

Hey DArk...it doesn't look to me at first glance that all ships you posted are legal..

IIRC, there is a rule about sections overlapping and max number of guns per section.

CmdPrompt · Post by **CmdPrompt** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:09 am

There is no rule on max number of guns per section, and sections can overlap within small amounts.

Seems fine to me.

TrashMan · Post by **TrashMan** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:23 am

-Sections may overlap other sections within reason. No more than 25% (give or take) can be covered by another section.

DarkenShroud · Post by **DarkenShroud** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:59 am

I made sure to only overlap a quarter the way. Some maybe covered 1/3 of the way though, not sure. Like I said they were rushed, I just wanted folks to have a few ships to test against. But the overlap should be very close to being legal, if not legal. And Cmd Prompt is right, there is no limit to how many weapons you can put on a given section, they just can't touch. My loadouts are mostly one space apart from each other, so they may look like they touch when they rotate to fire.

I actually made them flawed to ensure you don't see my true potential lol.

I wonder sometimes if you're trying to play mind games with us

A renegade is only what he makes of himself - Magius to Huma

If ya read or know about Dragonlance, then you know the answer to that question.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ITkl7Ezl274&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fsBxVd_VliI&feature=related

My actual designs can beat these no sweat, so if you can too...then you know your on the right track.

I'm off for the weekend, so I may work on some better test ships for you all. I'll try to make sure there differnt, and I'll try to take more time on them to ensure quality. But I still won't build anything remotely as good as what I have planned.

Lol, the only one of the bunch that is decent against my new ships that I haven't sent to CT yet is Tasha.

Have you been doing 1 on 1 tests, or 4 on 4. One on one will not get you a accurate result in this type of tourney. Only by testing 4 on four will you get a good idea on how your ship will perform in this type of tourney. Granted the test ships I have submitted aren't all that great, but 4 on 4 they shouldn't be too bad to test against. And should maybe take down a few ships. Still waiting on my teamates to perfect designs, so we may discuss them. So I do have the time I suppose lol

*Another cloud of smoke forms, then begins to swirl around and above him*

Hippy Shipbuilding 102 (Soon to come)

antisocialmunky · Post by **antisocialmunky** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:33 am

I test 4 vs 4 always. My current favorite ship can take alot of them down without a section loss. Of your submissions, your 4x Solitari_Champion challenge only blew off one section between the 4 of them with their purple beams.

No offense but most of your ships just can't seem to deal enough damage to my ships. Or whatever damage gets taken out by ablative armor. Your ships aren't exactly subtle or super efficient like an actual tourney fleet would be but they aren't particularly challenging all to take down.

I think that these test ships are good at testing certain aspects of a ship design but get shredded by an actual tourney ship.

That being said, I do love your Buckler ship. Very creative use of the girder sections. Look forward to more creative test ships. In Hippy 102, hope not to see just more close range grinders. I know you can do better, stretch your imagination and change it up.

Your Tashas are actually quite good and my ship can take them out in about 50% of engagements. Its all very random though. Right now, I'm trying to figure out how to keep my ships from doing ridiculous things when fighting your ships so I can push that 50% up a few notches. It usually depends on who decides to do something completely retarded first.

I'm curious to see whether or not any of your test ships can actually beat my ship.

The overlap rule should be clarified. Is it 25% by one section or all sections put together?

EDIT: Just figured out how to Tasha proof my ship. Thanks for helping me improve my flanking blaster spam defense.

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