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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:25 pm
by Comus
Master Chief wrote:4. NO PULSARS, DRIVERS OR USELESS CRAP - you're gonna fight fast pirate frigates and a Juggernaut
*cough* Drivers are far from useless, because they can act as a form of PD. Pulsars are less useful in this situation than, say, against the mothership, but they're still one of the best, longest-range weapons in the game. I'd recommend the following (for everyone but myself, obviously, as the Iron Snowflake is a giant target instead of a warship):

1. Frosch guns. Good idea. Small enemy ships means they'll last for a while.
2. Make sure to protect your ass - the pirates are going to be attacking us more to the sides and rear than from the front. Consider placing your weapons so they can fire at a wide side angle, while maintaining overlapping arcs in the front for use against the juggernaut.
3. Every ship needs to be smaller than the Iron Snowflake. Otherwise, you become the target instead of me.
4. Use flak for PD. It gets better and better the more you have, so if everyone is using it...
5. Use every shield you can, have few, large sections on your outer hull - this way, they can be protected.
6. Plasma launchers. The Pirates are going to be abusing the available Aegis as much as possible, making hardened clamshell ships. Plasma is the easiest way to strip them of modules. Unlike Lancets, they won't just bounce off of allied shields.
7. Beamers. We need to get through whatever PD they can throw at us, and beams are the way to do that. Beams for damage, plasma to strip modules.
8. Don't neglect turning. Get it high so you can face the enemy.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:49 am
by ArcaneDude
Allright. I'll make a plasma spam ship. The Brussels is too big 'n slow anyway.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:17 am
by Commodore111
If you want plasma spam, try something like this:

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88 Plasma Launchers and counting!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:31 am
by antisocialmunky
... I thought you were only playing the pirate side.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:37 am
by Commodore111
Im not on eaither side, Im just going around helping the teams.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:55 am
by ArcaneDude
That's exactly what I'm going to try. :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:03 am
by antisocialmunky
They're fun, but they aren't very good against large or fast targets.

I think some sort of dieterling ship like Final Solution would work best... Except negative range and higher turn so the pirate ships have to waste their time with turning so you have some extra time to take them out.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:14 am
by XxKiraYamatoxX
Built a new ship from scratch.

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Name: Aegis
HP: 300
Speed: 1.80
Turning: 0.95
AI Range: 500
Accel: 0.05
Description:
Number of sections: 22
Total HP: 4000
Number of weapons: 48
Number of modules: 6

Weapon List:
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Module List:
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module|Deflector|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1||16777215|-1|0|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:23 am
by Zancloufer
Lol, everyone is making lumbering Juggernaughts. I guess my small Frigate will be out there on it's own, flanking enemy ships.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:25 am
by XxKiraYamatoxX
My new ship's a Frigate. >.>

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:27 am
by antisocialmunky
I has frigates... in the pirate thread.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:30 pm
by Droid
because pirates can only have frigates. lol.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:45 pm
by Master Chief
XxKiraYamatoxX wrote:My new ship's a Frigate. >.>
And yes, it does pack a fairly powerful punch... :twisted:

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:23 pm
by antisocialmunky
We need a dedicated bee spammer to distract PD. We can probably put about 30 to 40 on a single ship andh ave it sit really out of the way.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:24 pm
by Master Chief
antisocialmunky wrote:We need a dedicated bee spammer to distract PD. We can probably put about 30 to 40 on a single ship andh ave it sit really out of the way.
What was the range of Demeter drones again? Infinite? :D