3rd Custom Ships Tournament: Fleets [Submission Closed]

Daxx · Post by **Daxx** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:24 pm

Heh, I almost expected everyone to go with beam weaponry. I was sorely temped to drop all my PD, but in the end couldn't really justify it.

What you might find is that as well as an increase in PD prices (say to 3 across the board), people will take note of the reduced level of projectile weaponry and lower their spending on PD anyway. There's no real need to make a huge jump in prices straight away, but there's certainly a case for gradually increasing them until we find the right level.

What we will ideally end up with is an equilibrium situation where a certain ratio of ships use projectiles, and other ships take a certain amount of PD based on the point where the marginal cost of one unit of PD is equal to the marginal benefit. This equilibrium can then be shifted through changes to PD costs - the more expensive, the higher the marginal cost (meaning that the equilibrium point is shifted further back and the effectiveness of projectile ships is increased, making them more prevalent, having further effects on the marginal benefit from PD etc etc).

The analysis combines elements of game theory and equilibrium theory (who knew that doing economics at Uni would actually come in handy?) and is slightly more complex than I have presented it, but I assure you that the principle is sound.

antisocialmunky · Post by **antisocialmunky** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:44 pm

Master Chief wrote:
EndlessInfinity wrote:unless you can do more damage than deflectors can absorb...
Which, incidentally, is what ASM is claiming to be able to, in the Juggernaut tournament, of course.

You don't have to unless the enemy has more deflectors and small sections or more deflectors than sections...

Beamers synchronize alright with deflector fail and the other four fire long enough that it doesn't matter.

All you have to do to fix the PD problem is to make them cost 3 after two of one and 4 after 4 of one.

Discourages that single spam.

EndlessInfinity · Post by **EndlessInfinity** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:40 am

...that... and it doesn't help that I thought I was in the AtJ thread...

Maybe I should have been drinking...

antisocialmunky · Post by **antisocialmunky** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:49 am

Meh, don't feel so bad, I just got CMD and Sponge mixed up in Sponge's thread.

Daxx · Post by **Daxx** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:11 am

And since I've finally gotten back to my computer, here's my fleet.

The Daring, the Audacity, and the Suicidal Insanity

DarkenShroud · Post by **DarkenShroud** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:20 am

Ok I'm back online finally

I'll get to the pms as soon as possible, I'm still gettin things together on my end house wise. Any update on the tourney progress?

antisocialmunky · Post by **antisocialmunky** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:31 am

Any ETA on Round 2?

Xerxes-17 · Post by **Xerxes-17** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:12 pm

Dammit, I stopped checking this forum for a while and didn't get a chance to enter into this one. I had my fleet all planned out and ready too.

DarkenShroud · Post by **DarkenShroud** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:07 am

Anything happening with this one, any new updates? *Enters the shadowy wastes that surround him seeking out Cmd Prompt*

CmdPrompt · Post by **CmdPrompt** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:43 am

I'm sorry guys, life took over.

I can put the fleets up for download if someone else wants to run it, but I just don't have the time.

Again, I apologize.

DarkenShroud · Post by **DarkenShroud** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:48 am

All good glad you posted brother. Anyone up to taking over for Cmd Prompt, or should we wait it out? Eitherway thnx again for posting and letting us know what the deal is man. Hope everything works out on your end and can rejoin us soon.

Himura.Kenshin · Post by **Himura.Kenshin** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:26 am

Put up the ships and we can make encounters and run our own battles.

Thanks.

CmdPrompt · Post by **CmdPrompt** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:49 am

http://muon.us/bsf/fleettournyall.zip

Namigob · Post by **Namigob** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:19 am

Thanks for posting the fleets.

I'm going on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow; but when I get back I plan on running battles of my fleet against all of the others.
I'll post my results and if everyone else can do the same we should be able to produce enough data to determine the winner.
I already know I'm not going to win but it will still be fun to see how I rank in the final tally.

Namigob · Post by **Namigob** » Mon May 12, 2008 2:32 am

Here are the results of my fleet vs every other fleet.
Best 2 out of 3 determined the winner.
..............wins................................wins....winner
Namigob....0....vs....Daxx.................2........Daxx
Namigob....2....vs....Mijolnir..............1........Namigob
Namigob....0....vs....DarkenShroud...1........draw? *
Namigob....2....vs....H.Kenshin..........1........Namigob
Namigob....2....vs....BlueEcho...........0........Namigob
Namigob....1....vs....EndlessInfinity...2........EndlessInfinity
Namigob....0....vs....MasterChief.......2........MasterChief
Namigob....0....vs....ASM...................2........ASM
Namigob....2....vs....Danou...............0........Namigob
Namigob....2....vs....CmdPrompt.......0........Namigob
Namigob....0....vs....Mr.Wizard..........2........Mr.Wizard

* Two of the contests with DarkenShroud ended in draws, each time Namigob had 5 ships remaining and DarkenShroud had 1.
DarkenShroud's remaining ship only had lancets and point defense. It could not have destroyed any of the other ships.

final tally: Out of eleven contests I (Namigob) won 5, lost 5, and had 1 draw.