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Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:56 am
by Biggums425
[quote="SilverWingedSeraphThe only thing simple here is you.[/quote]

oh god please not over (well I can go 200 over and still have a backup plan anyway :))

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:49 pm
by Pyrophage
@Kiltric: Didn't notice that. Any way, the new link is here.

Edit- fixed the old link too.

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:05 pm
by vidboi
ok, sorry for the long delay, i've been bogged down with school etc.

anyway:

kiltric - Tuchax: stats fine,

pyrophage: - leviathan: stats wrong for manouevering, speed calculated as 0.66, accel 0.06 and turning 0.78. you also have spare mass and power allowment, not sure if this was intentional
- cancer: this goes way over the power and mass limits (875 mass over and 195 power) and again the manouevering is too high, how are you calculating that?

the trilobite seems fine though, so that's alright

Destroyer#1: it would help if you list weapon mass/power on stats as well, i'll check against the ship file later

Calvin - Wasp: ok that's great, all entered

Kittenpillar - Owl: stats are fine, now you just need a dowload

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:29 pm
by Pyrophage
vidboi wrote:pyrophage: also, i added up the mass and power you've stated in the specs and a. you've got a lot left over (not sure if you were aware of this) and b. the speed, accel and turning come out higher for me (0.88, 0.07 and 1.32 respectively)
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I assumed that these stats you gave me were accurate (I believe I've preserved the overall mass of the thrusters since that post.)

I'll work it out here so you can correct me if I've made an error somewhere.

(800mass*4speed/mass)/14400=.22 speed per heavy thruster
(400mass*4speed/mass)/14400=.11 speed per medium thruster
So .55 total speed, unless I've missed something.

(800mass*.3acceleration/mass)/14400=.0166 per heavy thruster
(400mass*.3acceleration/mass)/14400=.0083 per medium thruster
So .042 acceleration, again, barring any errors.

(800mass*6turning/mass)/14400=.333 per heavy thruster
(400mass*6turning/mass)/14400=.166 per medium thruster
So, again, unless I've missed the mark, the turning is .83

So, I think we were both wrong. :lol:
Really hope this doesn't sound smarmy or like I'm trying to 1-up you. :wink:

You keep mentioning a surplus, I thought I was just a hair under the limit, is it really so large? I'd really hate to waste points I could be using.

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:13 pm
by vidboi
it's because you divide the total thrust etc. by used mass, not allowed mass :wink:

and iirc it was around 1000 mass or something, i can't quite remember though

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:08 pm
by jwa8402
Updated my post on page 12. Changed download to a .zip. Swapped out the cruiser. Removed the hax weaponry. Also I think I did the armor correctly this time. Let me know if somethings off.

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:17 pm
by vidboi
ok, thanks jwa, i'll get that checked out

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:27 pm
by kittenpillar100
Vidboi, I have a question:
the used mass is actually how heavy the spaceship is, the avalible mass is how heavy the spaceship can be to lift off, if it's heavier it would have to be made in an orbital construction platform and would be very slow and cumbersome, however, more to the point is that the weight of the ship is used mass and not allowed mass so really, we should be dividing the thrust by used mass.
This will give people a chance to make their ship lighter so it can move faster while having relative freedom over it's size.

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:44 am
by vidboi
it is divided by used mass... maybe i didn't make that clear enough, i've updated the original post: total mass = used mass

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:10 am
by kittenpillar100
it's because you dived the total thrust etc. by used mass, not allowed mass :wink:
shpeshul boy :3
it is divided by used mass... maybe i didn't make that clear enough, i've updated the original post: total mass = used mass
extra shpeshul

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:27 am
by vidboi
i'm not sure how tired i was when i posted that, but it should've said divide, not dived :oops:

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:28 am
by kittenpillar100
LOOK AT THE FIRST ONE THEN THE SECOND ONE :3
see what I mean now

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:46 am
by vidboi
yeah i know it isn't exactly clear ^^;

but yeah, speed, accel and turning are divided by used mass, not allowed mass

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:43 am
by Kiltric
jwa, I see a slight problem with the engines on your cruiser

Thrusters Ion (1x): (mass= 1000each)
Mounts: 1x large: mass allowance: 1000, power allowance: 400
Power (each) = (mass*0.5): 500

500 power on a 400 PA mount.

Re: BSF Tournament

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:18 pm
by jwa8402
Opps :oops: So if I make it 800 instead it should be ok right?