New ship bridges

FIREST0RM000 · Post by **FIREST0RM000** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:44 am

here are some thoughts on bridges. try to use more rounded edges and less boxes. triangles could work, but squares just look bad.

http://www.starfleetmodeler.com/Starshi ... loseup.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r205 ... OYAGER.jpg
http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/41496/ ... 965_rs.jpg
http://fc64.deviantart.com/fs20/f/2007/ ... lacore.jpg
http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/media ... ip_003.jpg

Sponge · Post by **Sponge** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:44 am

Anna wrote: I don't see any due respect there. Perhaps you should try harder.

The statement was inherently disrespectful, thus the "with all due respect" prefix. In my experience, said prefix generally implies that the person has a strong opinion, but does not wish for it to be construed as disrespectful.

I called him stupid because he said a stupid thing (the first post I quoted, fuckwit)

Point understood. The blanket statement on his part was inaccurate. He then revised his statement, and you called him stupid a second time (by relating him to his much more accurate "general conception").

And you don't get to decide what's becoming of a mod.

Again, with all due respect, someone has to. It is my understanding that your task is to uphold the rules (put most simply). Granted, I don't believe there's a firm rule regarding acting like a dick, such behavior is distasteful when coming from a public official. If I put a statue in my front yard, and a police officer drove by in his cruiser, shouting out the window, "Hey fucker, that statue is almost as gay as you are!" I'd probably file a complaint.

The result is fairly poor all around. I actually don't mind visible bridges if they're done well, in spite of the fact they make no logical sense. This isn't done well, for numerous reasons (bland, lacking in interesting details, plain shape, right angles, straight unbroken lines, the blue making it difficult to recolour, etc)

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I don't think it's great, but I don't think it's bad either. I don't plan on using it, but I could see it looking good on smaller ships: perhaps fighters.

And one final point: It doesn't matter whose side you're on. I'm the mod, thus I am right.

Yep, this is true. I'm just requesting that you come down off the offensive a bit. I respect you for your ability to keep this place running smoothly, and I've no doubt that your occasional explosions keep people in check. Even so, you don't have to be so hard on people who haven't done anything wrong.

jwa8402 · Post by **jwa8402** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:02 am

Nice to know who siber's new rules apply to....

The objections are valid, but its a mute point. There is plenty of evidence that visible bridges are used in many science fiction ships, not to mention every real world space design so far, which is what I took iburn's first statement to mean. Doesn't have to be practical since no real world space warships have even been designed.

As for the sprite iburn, take your own advice and put windows on it. Also Anna is right, a more domed or 3d look would be nice since if it is sticking out of the ship, its probably to be able to see. Also, to satisfy the bunker junkies, perhaps some sort of sensor dish would be appropriate since the people on the bridge have to be able to see somehow if theres no windows.

Post by **Arcalane** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:20 am

jwa8402 wrote:Nice to know who siber's new rules apply to....

Not who. Where. This isn't Custom Ships, after all.

jwa8402 wrote:As for the sprite iburn, take your own advice and put windows on it. Also Anna is right, a more domed or 3d look would be nice since if it is sticking out of the ship, its probably to be able to see. Also, to satisfy the bunker junkies, perhaps some sort of sensor dish would be appropriate since the people on the bridge have to be able to see somehow if theres no windows.

I thought the big blue panels -were- windows? I'd suggest adding something that looks like a connector for a seperate sensor dish section. It's more fun when they rotate, after all.

IBurn36360 · Post by **IBurn36360** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:24 am

now, I thank for all of the tips.

Firestorm, those will come in handy.

Arcalane, will do.

As for the windows, I think I'll make the bridges Gigantic for the dateail and show some internal consles in the windows if that will help. They will have to be shrinked, but that is a small price to pay for the detail.

Post by **Anna** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:34 am

IBurn36360 wrote:now, I thank for all of the tips.

Firestorm, those will come in handy.

Arcalane, will do.

As for the windows, I think I'll make the bridges Gigantic for the dateail and show some internal consles in the windows if that will help. They will have to be shrinked, but that is a small price to pay for the detail.

That strikes me as a bad idea. Heavily shrunk sections do not work well on ships, unless everything else is shrunk down to scale. More over, I think SMALLER bridge sprites with specific details would work much better. Ultimately, it's up to you, though.

jwa: If you have a problem with the way I do my job, just say so and I'll be happy to tell you to fuck off.

IBurn36360 · Post by **IBurn36360** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:41 am

I have a plan to counteract that, IF I am able to make the thickness of every line enough, It'll appear to be the same as if it weren't and we still get the detail in the windows.

Post by **Anna** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:43 am

IBurn36360 wrote:I have a plan to counteract that, IF I am able to make the thickness of every line enough, It'll appear to be the same as if it weren't and we still get the detail in the windows.

That could work. I guess we'll see.

jwa8402 · Post by **jwa8402** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:46 am

I don't Anna, and I've tried really hard to show that by not backseat modding anymore. I simply don't see the difference between posting custom ships and custom sprites, and assumed the sentiments of siber's post applied to posted creations and criticisms in general. Fine that they don't if thats the case. Derail ended.

Iburn, don't go super detailed, I think I just had a different mental image of it thats all. I look forward to the refined version.

IBurn36360 · Post by **IBurn36360** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:53 am

jwa8402 wrote: Iburn, don't go super detailed, I think I just had a different mental image of it thats all. I look forward to the refined version.

I don't intend to detail anything except what is in the windows and a few light effects.

Malahite · Post by **Malahite** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:49 pm

Hmm... Insted of making whole bridges, which could be hard to keep in scale with soem ships, maybe make only window-like sections, to mix up with regular ones?

Venator · Post by **Venator** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:58 pm

You know, on the topic of all or most ships having exposed, vulnerable bridges...

Really not seeing it here.

IBurn36360 · Post by **IBurn36360** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:05 pm

Galactica is one of the few that don't have an obviously exposed bridge, in truth, the bridge is placed close towrard the top level, front of the ship, close enough to be a target if it were found out.

jwa8402 · Post by **jwa8402** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:58 pm

Not to mention the original BSG was obviously exposed and damaged several times. Happens when you don't have sufficient sensor technology to see whats going on without a big window at the front of the bridge... WSKRS are the answer I say...

Malahite · Post by **Malahite** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:48 pm

Bah. Almost every Star Wars ship has an exposed bridge.