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lightstriker wrote:Lithium and Flourine make fire.
Without oxygen.
Just saying
...Lithium is an elementSingularity wrote:I'm guessing they create the oxygen when they react, due to the atoms being given off.
Flourine is an element.
They react as follows: 2 Li + F2 ---> 2 LiF
There is no oxygen.
with that said, we should probably get back on topic now... thank you, and sorry.
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Singularity wrote:I'm guessing they create the oxygen when they react, due to the atoms being given off.
EDIT: THE NINJAS WERE EVERYWHERE MAN![20:55] <LSleep> ...epic fail ---> http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... c&start=14
[20:55] <LSleep> just... no...
[20:56] <AidanAdv> He apparently ignored the fact that those are elements, not compounds
[20:57] <LSleep> yup...
[20:57] <LSleep> I don't even WANT to know where he thought the oxygen came from ~.~
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I never said anything about making damaged sections for certain damage types. I was just pointing out the fact that you've only made one sprite for each section, which would be problematic for a ship like the Hestia, which uses the same section four times (I mean, it would look a little weird if the ship had the same rips and tears across its body).LordGarcia wrote:Back then when I made these I simply thought about making some damage here, some holes there. I didn't really think about what hit it and that might be the cause for these all looking different.
I have been playing around with that idea myself for a while now, but have never put anything down on paper yet. I might experiment with making one or two tonight. I'll post the results along with a few more sprites if I'm able.Kyranzor wrote:i reckon someone should make a doodad with repeating flames/sparks/smoke that you can pin to the destroyed sections, to be gas emissions and electrical fires or whatever that might originate from the damaged areas..
Oh, and for the record, I believe there are reactions that can burn without the presence of oxygen (and anyways, wouldn't oxygen leak out of life support systems and the like?)
technically, although the presence of a flame gives the apearence of fire, "burning" and "combustion" are considered a form of combining with oxygen. rusting is a simmilar reaction dragged out over a longer time period. anything else that produces a flame, including lithium and florine, is not really burning, it gives the ilusion of burning, and triggers combustion reactions to start.the mulletron wrote:Oh, and for the record, I believe there are reactions that can burn without the presence of oxygen (and anyways, wouldn't oxygen leak out of life support systems and the like?)
so sure, it produces a flame, but is it burning? no.
and just for the record, hydrocarbons burn the best.
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Yes, but this is all just a technicality. Sure, within academic circles, burning is a process which explicitly involves oxygen, but to the layman, the word "burning" is an umbrella term applied to any reaction that produces a flame. I was simply using the word in the latter context.flabort wrote:technically, although the presence of a flame gives the apearence of fire, "burning" and "combustion" are considered a form of combining with oxygen. rusting is a simmilar reaction dragged out over a longer time period. anything else that produces a flame, including lithium and florine, is not really burning, it gives the ilusion of burning, and triggers combustion reactions to start.
so sure, it produces a flame, but is it burning? no.
But all this is a moot point. The original debate was about can fires (or at least something to similar effect) exist in space, and AFAIK, the answer is yes.
EDIT: I've just had a quick look at Wikipedia on the subject of combustion. You're wrong, flabort. The process is is defined as...
Wikipedia gives both oxygen and fluorine as examples of oxidants. See for yourself if you don't believe me...Wikipedia wrote:...a complex sequence of exothermic chemical reactions between a fuel (usually a hydrocarbon) and an oxidant accompanied by the production of heat or both heat and light in the form of either a glow or flames, appearance of light flickering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combustion
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Ok, didn't know that. i thought it was the flourate and flourite ions (which contian oxygen) attached to metals that made flourine an atractive atom to have in a burning chemical. turns out, yes, i was wrong. interesting that elemental flourine can be used to burn stuff in a way defined not just by the layman.the mulletron wrote:
Wikipedia gives both oxygen and fluorine as examples of oxidants.
hmm... since iron rust is iron (II) oxide and iron (III) oxide, i wonder what would happen with a flourine replacement, so iron (II) flouride and iron (III) flouride... i though it worked as putting a stable bright red flame when those combined with oxygen, but now that i see...
i'm babbling again. sorry. i'll stop now. really. i'm sorry.[/babble]
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