Random acts of violence with Shipmaker

[Son Tzu]

Right, that's it, I'm off home in a big sulk. Oh, wait a minute, I am at home. I wish I knew how to cut and paste textures like that. Is it animated?
Post up the shp & sb4 when you get a chance would you? Blood must flow...

[Doogie12]

Dear jwa, I must say I'm disappointed with these shields. I would much rather see shields that are fitted to the ship, like what I used on my Scimitar. They really are not hard to make, although you would have to make a seperate one for each ship. They also work just as well, if not better, than the normal bubble shields.
Love, Doogie.

P.S. I actually want you to edit my Scimitar to be balanced towards these.

Anyways, off to play Adrenaline!

[Son Tzu]

Heheh, Optimus Prime is stirring in his construction bay. Soon, HE will be among us...

[jwa8402]

@Horsemonster: Ah thats the name, thanks! Don't worry I know that version isn't very accurate.
@Son Tzu: lol awesome. Oh and try the download. I just threw some weapons on there so it will get better.
@Doogie: After playing your Schimitar I'm inclined to agree that I like that style. And I know its not hard but I'm at almost 80 ships if I bother to arm them all so that could take awhile. On the upside it would save me from having to restat ships like the battlestar that use armor since at least it wouldn't have that bubble effect. It looks much cooler with aegis than nano though

I've instituted some changes that should fix important issues. The torpedos are going to be slightly faster and have more damage but with a significant reload. Ships get their point defense back but are limited by class on both pd and weapons. Until I can try doogie's idea, shields got lightened so they aren't as obnoxious. I realized ai ranges were ridiculously low so I knocked them up a bit. Speed was adjusted on all ships. Also adding minor cosmetic changes like the spotlights on earth ships and glows on alien ships as I get the chance. I will release another beta test once I'm through that. Oh and I armed the Valdore and borg cube
Tonight is the first of my last two medical exams so hopefully moar free time for a week or so after this. Oh hey look, new ships!

[Son Tzu]

Questions: Who are you? What do you want? Where are you going? How will you get there?
Possible Answers: Why are you asking me all these questions? Are you conducting an interstellar census? Is that a ray gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? Will the Drak ever apologise for looking like the Magog? Are we there yet?
Shadow Cruiser looks ace (naturally ), permission to mod loadout to match B5 storyline?

[jwa8402]

Most certainly, go ahead! All I could find was the main beam and I thought I recalled some sort of pulse weapons. Any advice you can give is welcome.

Also one of my ideas once I release all these is to set up a system for modding. For instance if you want to fire a spread of torpedoes like the Sovereign does you could, at a cost of balance.

[Son Tzu]

The larger Shadow vessels only had a beam, no shields, no PD, no nuthin' else. But then, they didn't need anything else. The pulse weapons you're thinking of were on the smaller scout type Shadows, which sort of looked like a black dandelion flower being pulled backwards through a wind tunnel... Have a working prototype of OP up and running, just sorting out a few details, waiting for feedback. I'll have to be careful modding the Cruiser lest I provoke Anna into a tirade about "wanked out high power weapons"

[jwa8402]

Well the idea is to have them all relatively balanced to eachother. At this stage that means even ships like the battlestar get a shield. Later on I'll go through and restat some to have armor instead, along with making weapons effects more cannon. Mod it however you like for now though, effects wise, but keep in mind its already got the most powerful beam weapon on it so it tears through most ships up to cruiser class in a few shots.

Roughed out some new ships. The Aurora from SG Atlantis, a shadow scout(though I need to make more pieces cuz I can't get it accurate with what I have), Anubis's Mothership from Stargate SG1, and...my epic nerdom is showing here, an Andalite dome ship*ducks* Of course I feel slightly less nerdy that there were even orthos out there.

I'm winding down in terms of how many more ships will be built. I currently have plans to build the Narada, the Honor Harington double dildo ships, yeerk pool and blade ships, 3 more borg ships, 2 more klingon ships, 1 or 2 feds, and two hirogen ships. I also might build some from Homeworld and star wars if I'm feeling ambitious. I already have a full battlestar fleet mostly done. After that, I'll probably spend some time on effects and stuff but most likely take a break. Small/fighter ships would be nice but right now thats beyond my patience.

[Son Tzu]

I like wanked out high power weapons. Well, in the correct context. Dunno how you'd balance ships from different "universes", seems to me that would be a purely subjective and conjectural exercise. As for balancing shadow vessels against other B5 ships, they're the baddest. Roughly 6 whitestars and a couple of Minbari battle cruisers would be needed to take down one of the big ones unless the Vorlons show up (yeah, right), and at that not all of them will be going home afterwards. Sheridan blew the crap out of the weapons and power systems on a whitestar just to kill a single scout type. Ok, so my single beam on this modded cruiser is totally OTT, though I think HMs' bullet gif is pretty accurate. I didn't pick a large number for the damage at random, for these guys 666 is just right. Nice to see you've hardly any ships left to build... ...if you keep hitting the caffeine drinks like that you're gonna give yourself a heart attack. What am I saying? You're a medical student, you guys practically live on caffeine...

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[jwa8402]

Naw not a medical student; just a ranger. We have to be certified medical responders along with studying just about every other subject out there, but this is my second to last test before graduation and I nailed it with the second highest score in the class

Is it a match for the Excaliber or were the shadows gone by then? Your right about this stuff being subjective but the idea is to draw people in with ships they recognize and inherently want to play with. To effectively have a fleet battle there has to be some tradeoffs in power. I agree shadows get the highest stats of the ships from that universe, but whos to say their able to punch through a star destroyer's shields, shrug off a yamato cannon, or out maneuver a bird of prey? Thats the fun part. Unfortunatly this means ships like the original Enterprise, which I like, are relatively small fish.

Also the current super beam dpf is 25 which is close to the square root of 666 lol. I'll try yours out and see what can be used in the final version, but at that damage I could line up most of these ships and it would shoot through all of them

[Doogie12]

If you are gonna attempt the Narada, you should realize something. All Next-Gen ships should own it. It's a mining ship, from the Next Gen time period. So for example, the Scimitar was probably the most powerful ship ever seen in Star Trek and should easily destroy the massive Narada.

[jwa8402]

hmm ya I would tend to agree with you except for this comic I'm reading about called Countdown. Its apparently canon and states the vessel was originally much more typical but was modified by the Tal'shiar following the destruction of Romulous. They used salvaged borg technology which caused it to grow to 11 kilometers and be superior to even vessels of that time. I have no idea if thats accurate but it explains alot even though it displays a complete lack of understanding of the series science. Even without that, the comic goes on to place its original era well after the events of Nemesis, during a time when Data(B4 resurrected) has assumed command of the Enterprise and Picard is an Ambassador.

Of course any confirmation or dispute of that information is welcome. I also have very little idea how I will accomplish building it without some...interesting...custom sprites.

[Son Tzu]

First: Congrats on your results! Army Ranger or Park Ranger?
Shadows were long gone by the Excalibur shows up, probably just as well considering the impetuous nature of its captain...no competition really, Excaliburs' main gun doesn't exactly track quickly, and the recharge time . In reverse order: It wouldn't need to out manouver a bird of prey. If shadows laughed they'd laugh at the Klingons. Except they'd probably court them as a client race. I have no idea what a yamato cannon is. A match up with a Star Destroyer or Super Star Destroyer would be interesting, irresistable firepower vs unbelievable size. It would probably get bored and go away before finishing the job. The Sun Crusher now, that would be very difficult to call. In terms of playability, I think it would be a case of numbers, ie can you overwhelm a lone Shadow with your fleet before it turns you all into metal confetti and frozen jam.
Have you read Doogies reviving the community thread recently?

edit:Downloaded your Star Trek (orig) fleet a few hours ago. Now those are playable, and nice great looking. I think the Romulan Bird of Prey should be a Warbird, calling a Romulan a Klingon is about the worst insult they have. And vice versa. You really like the Liberator, don't you? I needed the entire Federation fleet to take it down. Always preferred the Scorpio myself. Think the Mods would allow us to rename the FAQ thread ask ORAC?

[Anna]

I think the Romulan Bird of Prey should be a Warbird, calling a Romulan a Klingon is about the worst insult they have. And vice versa.

The Romulans have ships called Birds-Of-Prey.

Think the Mods would allow us to rename the FAQ thread ask ORAC?

No.

[Son Tzu]

Huh, just goes to show you shouldn't post when you're so tired you can barely keep your eyes open. I'm always confusing BOP/W, which is probably why I'm not welcome on Romulus or Kronos...
@Anna it was a joke, even though I forgot to include one of these , obviously it wouldn't work as the only people who would understand it are Blakes Seven fans. We are a dying breed...