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UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:52 pm
by arbiterxxxxxxx
All this while people have been talking about Humans vs aliens. It gets boring so why had no one went back to good old cold war UN vs Comm's?

I think I can do 2 small fleets (UN and Comms) on this, any suggestions on design and names?

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:02 pm
by Arcalane
Because it's a load of old hat. COLD WAR IN SPAAAAACE has been done to death.

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:35 am
by Nutcase
And might I note that one of the countries that established UN was the Soviet Union?
And are you sure it's been done to death already?
I only remember one, maybe two games at the moment.

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:21 am
by Arcalane
Nutcase wrote:And might I note that one of the countries that established UN was the Soviet Union?
Who is that aimed at? A valid point though; UN vs USSR is not going to happen. I am, however, assuming that he meant the US.
Nutcase wrote:And are you sure it's been done to death already?
Cold War ripoffs and rescenes in general have been done to death, yes -- or are the very least considered rather cliché. It needn't exactly be US v USSR, but it's generally very obvious.

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:51 am
by Silverware
Check out Star Lancer if you don't believe it.

Its basically the UN nations vs Russia.
Don't bring nationality into it.

Instead do something that forms a rift between Humans in the future.
Like people not wanting Humans to be born off of Earth or something.

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:14 am
by vidboi
great, capitalism vs. communism, good vs. evil and all that other stuff that i can't honestly describe without swearing, and the old good humans vs bad aliens is just as bad (although it can still be the basis for a very good plot, e.g. marathon)

what any great plot needs is to be murky. there are no clear cut opposites in history, and that's what makes it interesting. you can just look back and see even recently the events such as the wars in the balkans and the current wars in iraq and afghanistan and use the basis of those for an idea and it'll be much more interesting

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:54 am
by Nutcase
So basically more Battlestar Galactica with the evil robots and humans being replaced with two equally likeable factions that would blow the shit out of each other given the opportunity?
I could go for that.


EDIT: Arc, you're probably right about the whole overdone cold war shit but there's quite a few areas for which the same applies.

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:15 pm
by Silverware
More like two or more factions both conflicted from within, using dirty tactics.
A war of victory through extermination.
Or something unique anyways.

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:31 pm
by CheesyErwin
Silverware wrote:Check out Star Lancer if you don't believe it.

Its basically the UN nations vs Russia.
Don't bring nationality into it.

Instead do something that forms a rift between Humans in the future.
Like people not wanting Humans to be born off of Earth or something.
That sounds like the Gundam universe to me.

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:54 pm
by arbiterxxxxxxx
umm....I'm thinking more along the line of Russia and China VS US and Europe....

anyway this is a Chinese Turret I'm thinking of, I'll put it on a shock beamer

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:14 am
by Silverware
Seriously? gah!
Try using some of the sprites made by some of the... more talented forum members.
No offense intended, I can't sprite either.

You don't even need to name nationalities, or even species.
Just give each side an outlook and a bit of history, and it can work.

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:01 am
by Ryen
Err... I don't think it would be so different between Western and Eastern in weapon design. :?
Guns are mainly cylinder...

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:33 pm
by arbiterxxxxxxx
Try using some of the sprites made by some of the... more talented forum members.
thats why I'm making it something like 0.2 x and y just to hide the low quality graphics and make you see only the general idea

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:47 pm
by Maart3n
arbiterxxxxxxx wrote:
Try using some of the sprites made by some of the... more talented forum members.
thats why I'm making it something like 0.2 x and y just to hide the low quality graphics and make you see only the general idea
Guy has a point here, a lot of things start looking good when rescaled!
But still it's ugly, and you should have an opposite aswell.

EDIT:
http://forums.datarealms.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16881
see, no spriting skills required!

Re: UN vs Communists?

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:53 am
by Silverware
opposite is easy just flip.
However I can say it won't look good at 0.2 scale. Because the edging lines themselves will be buggered up too.

To make something 10% scale draw what you want onto paper and scan it in, place the scan into paint and draw an image beside it in black, getting all major detail then zoom right in on the thing and add the minor detail in various shades of grey. Or colors if your going to make sure you set the color of the sprite in SM to white.