Bran spanking new to this game... sort of

Link · Post by **Link** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:58 am

Hey guys, first time on these forums and first time trying to make good ships. I was wondering if theres any guides in perticular that are helpful. I just tend to go for the fighter looking front with the star trek ass (i.e nacelles) and then i hop it up with atleast 40 flak and a couple heavy weapons, i'll provide some pics after. I've seen what you guys are doing and it just blows my mind. Any and all advice will be helpful as well and all critics are welcome as i could use a good kick in the ass for the amount of stuff i put on the ships

The Athena my latest

The Atlantia

The Achilles

And my first, The Atlas

Droid · Post by **Droid** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:02 am

Oh no...

I don't know where to begin.

Take everything that isn't a section.
Unstretch all the sections.
Turn off parneting (hit p)
Take screenshot at default zoom (Home)

And then we'll talk. It'd be easier to discuss with just hulls.

Link · Post by **Link** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:03 am

Droid wrote:Oh no...

So bad I don't know where to begin.

Take everything that isn't a section.
Unstretch all the sections.
Turn off parneting (hit p)
Take screenshot at default zoom (Home)

And then we'll talk.

lol, i know i suck, thats why im comming here

Droid · Post by **Droid** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:05 am

Yeah ok...

Initial shock aside:

First off, you basically want to have an idea of what shape you want, then try to fill it up with a variety of sections. Try to avoid stretching, as we now have more than enough custom sections (see Custom Content section for downloads) to make that a non-issue.

Weapons should flow into your design (as in, appear integrated), not cover it. With weapon depthing (w), this has become even easier.

Some people like to make a sketch of how the want something, something like this.

Link · Post by **Link** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:07 am

any parts in perticular?

and i do like that general design, im sort of trying to mic trek with bsg

Droid · Post by **Droid** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:08 am

Well, a good start would be making it so it isn't so thin.

LactoseTolerant · Post by **LactoseTolerant** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:09 am

Weapons. Please remove some of the weapons. I can't see the sectionwork. I can't give critique yet, as I can't make out the shape of the ships.

Link · Post by **Link** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:11 am

isn't the whole point of a battle ship to provide as little space facing the enemy as possible?

http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 35&start=0

are those good ones? plus im a noob who doens't know how to import custom parts

Link · Post by **Link** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:12 am

nvm the importing custom things, i think i found it

LactoseTolerant · Post by **LactoseTolerant** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:20 am

Link wrote:isn't the whole point of a battle ship to provide as little space facing the enemy as possible?

http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 35&start=0

are those good ones? plus im a noob who doens't know how to import custom parts

That's true, but you don't see warships completely covered in weapons

. Realistically (I know, it's a space game, lol, but still), a ship won't be able to handle and power all the weapons systems.

Shipmaking is more of an art here at Wyrdysm, so weapons are often ditched for the general appeal of the whole structure. Not getting what i'm talking about? See the "Holy Ships" sticky.

As for importing sprites, Kaelis's sprites are good to start out with. And there's also more stickies in the "Shipmaking Info" subforum to help you import them.

Droid · Post by **Droid** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:24 am

Firepower and Armor are just numbers. I can get a single weapon to be as powerful as needed.

How awesome it looks is all that matters, really.

Also, yes, you want to minimize profile, but you also don't want to have stuff snap off because it's too thin.

Link · Post by **Link** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:28 am

alright, i got some of his sprites... however do i have to import them all one by one by one or its there a faster way?

heres the athena striped of here weapons

Droid · Post by **Droid** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:36 am

You can import a sprites.ini (or create a new one yourself, though I don't know of any way of doing that other than writing it line-by-line in a text editor).

Oh wait...
Hit "`" (the "~" button), Hit "z", then scroll using 1,2,3,4. I think dragging/dropping onto the sidebar there works. Don't quote me on this.

Link · Post by **Link** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:40 am

its works, i don't know if i have all the peices but it works

edit, nvm it doesn't i'll just input one by one... god this'll take a while

25000st · Post by **25000st** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:26 am

You can drag and drop from the sprites folder to ShipMaker. You will also want to change that blue to something not too dark. A problem with your ship is that it is very flimsy.