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My 1st fleet.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:36 am
by xdarkcodex
Hopefully the picture works...
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Just a few ships made made.Just need to fix up the goblin a bit...
What do you think?

Edit: yay the picture works.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:55 am
by Darkship
Allow me to enlighten you before the rest of the forum descends upon this thread and rip you apart.

First off you do have one design that might work if you develop the necessary shipbuilding skills (The bumblebee). So in that regard you have come slightly ahead than some newcomers. However that is where the 'praise' ends.

Now the Constructive Criticism.

First of all never EVER stretch your sections like that. Its just plain horrible and ugly. Besides you can do much better with a combination of sections instead of one oversized section. This is primarily the Troll we are talking about.

The rest could used definite improvement in the areas of section usage and design. The bumblebee for example looks like it would lose its wing if someone were just look at it.

The Goblin too has a myriad of problems. You should not have sections that are just floating in space or are connected with a single pixel. It just doesn't work.

Also excessive use of pseudo aegis does not equal nice ship. Cut down on those. I suggest not using them at all for the moment, until you create a ship that draws little criticism.

All the ships look like they have been cobbled together with no thought as to how each piece should fit together. So that is another area you should work on.

I would suggest you to lurk a bit more on the forums to learn some of the tricks and hints that more experienced shipbuilders use, then apply them to your own design. At standard of ship construction, you will only be cannonfodder for the forums less subtle/accommodating forumites.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:56 am
by Homer
The fly and the bumblebee are the best out of all of them due the fact is has a solid shape. The goblin needs solid inners and redesigned outside scrap and retry. The Troll don't STRETCH :X :X them pieces the shape is OK... (i guess compared the other ships) but the section work is horrendous. completely redesign the troll please. The bumblebee is fine just thicken up the struts a bit a lower the glow settings on the fake aegis and give it some meat around the body.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:00 am
by xdarkcodex
Okay thanks for the tips to improve my ships. :P

Re: My 1st fleet.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:00 am
by Swamp Fox
xdarkcodex wrote:What do you think?
I think that the glows are excessive, your sections are stretched to the point of absurdity in places, and the designs themselves don't make sense at some points.

I am mainly going to address the Troll, since that one bothers me the most. For starters, the glows you have put on it are horribly bright and abrupt, so you go from fairly dark hull to Neon Hell in the blink of an eye. The sections are stretched enough that they are enormous in comparison to the originals, which makes them look pixelated and downright fuzzy. I can see the Troll becoming interesting, if you remade it with more moderation on the glows, and actually built your ship out of multiple sections instead of forcing them to approximate the shape.

The comment on design was mainly pointed at the Goblin, which looks like an arrangement of twigs, and the Bee, whose sidepods are only connected by one tiny strand of glowy stuff.

Honestly, I can see these being interesting, but right now the flaws in construction override that reaction.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:07 am
by xdarkcodex
So scrap the goblin.
Bulk up the Bumblebee with more parts,lower glow.
Use smaller parts for the troll,lower the glow.
What about the fly?

EDIT:
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So did I improve it or made it worst?

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:43 am
by Homer
The bumblebee is actually quite nice now, and the fly add a little more sections and armor around the core and the aegis lower it as well but split it into 2 sections and move it the side. and I think side pods close on the fly would also look nice.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:55 am
by xdarkcodex
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Slightly better in my opinion.Not sure about the front bit with the fake aegis but...

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:35 pm
by SHAD0Wdump
Problem is your still doing a massive amount of stretching,try to build the shape with parts that are not modified in size at all,slight changes though are acceptable.

Remember while doing this to pay attention to internal detail.


Finally,there is a function that allows you to conceal or partially conceal weapons and modules,press 'w' and it will match depth with the section it is parented to.