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Newbie ship
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:57 pm
by Morpheus
Hi there, I've been messing with the SM and browsing this forum for tutorials and tips, so here I present my first ship.
Archer class Tactical Battleship
Armaments:
3 x dual laser
4 x particle cannon
2 x beamer
1 x mega beam
2 x missile launcher
6 x flak gun
4 x deflector unit
Initial design:
Refit:
For the refit I added several depth and smaller sections. However I'm unsure about the glow.
C&C are welcomed
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:27 pm
by Invasion captain
It's ok for a first ship .But put some colore on it like gray and white. Look at my ships (the fighter carriar).Color like that.The shape is ok.Whan puting trusters and truster x put a section uder the section that you whant to put trusters and then parent them thrue the lower section and press w .The truster is now under the section and looks much beter.
Sorry for my bad english if i misspelld anything
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:52 pm
by Anna
Invasion captain wrote:It's ok for a first ship. But put some color on it like gray and white. Look at my ships (the fighter carrier). Color like that. The shape is ok. When putting thrusters and thruster ex put a section under the section that you want to put thrusters and then parent them thrue (through? to? I'm not sure what you meant) the lower section and press w. The thruster is now under the section and looks much better.
Sorry for my bad english if I misspelled anything.
Misspellings have been corrected and bolded, grammar has been corrected. I understand that English isn't your native language, so I'm not gonna berate or insult you. Just trying to help out. Just keep trying to improve, 'kay? It'd really make me happy.
Morpheus! The refit of your ship is... not too bad. But it really needs more colour. Stock-green ships are really nasty. I'd also recommend using the "stock" sections less. The newer sections are much more detailed and interesting, if not quite as versatile. The shape of the ship is lacking in anything really interesting, though. We call ships like that "penis bricks".
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:27 pm
by brenwasp
Remember to conceal weapons.
And I don't think that much weapons can fit on a ship the size of that.
Reduce it to somewhat 3-6 weapons total.
and the red glow won't work well.
So if you want a red glow to fit with the ship I suggest either going with a little of red and Grey.
As for the refit, it looks great. But still reduce the weapons. 3 twin laser cannons seem too much.
And you can change it to another color like grey. It can help alot since almost everyone here likes ships that have at least a part of the ship Grey.
My Hu' Quok is also a example of it.
EDIT: Sorry, my bad. When i say conceal, I mean you can conceal if you want, but for me i think I would conceal.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:07 pm
by Lizzie
brenwasp wrote:Remember to conceal weapons.
And I don't think that much weapons can fit on a ship the size of that.
Reduce it to somewhat 3-6 weapons total.
As for the refit, it looks great. But still reduce the weapons. 3 twin laser cannons seem too much.
Wrong, wrong,
WRONG
For further emphasis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY
The ONLY possible thing I agree with is the removal of the twin lasers but even then, they'd just be better off replaced by single weapons. The amount of weapons on the ship fits just fine otherwise. I don't see how it possibly couldn't fit that amount of weapons. Hell it could fit MORE but that would be overdoing it.
Also there's no law saying you have to conceal weapons all the time. Hell sometimes a ship just looks better without them concealed or colored.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:14 pm
by ArcaneDude
Not bad for a first ship, even if the shape is relatively simple. Good armament, although you'll want to remember the fact that guns usually have a very low HP and are thus prone to being destroyed when dangling outside the hull. The glows on the refit are fine, but the ship can still use a color that fits the glows. or glows that fit the current color, your choice.
@brenwasp: Are you afraid of putting your sentences into a proper text or something?
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:59 am
by brenwasp
@ArcaneDude: No. I just only typed quick that time. And i was doing something else.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:51 am
by Morpheus
Thanks for the input guys, I will make some modifications and also thinking about recoloring the ships.
For the weapon arrangement I was thinking to remove the mega beamer, and also removing the glow from the turrets.
edit: added the pic, I also have to made the same modificaton to the 3D model...

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:46 pm
by Invasion captain
Loks much better now.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:55 pm
by 25000st
That's a nice ship you've got there. I really like the colors. You arming looks pretty good too. The only thing that bothers me is the undersized sections. It really isn't a good idea to stretch or shrink a section more than two times in one direction.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:50 am
by Morpheus
I made more ships, and they are still in WIP status.

Lancer class cruiser
Armaments:
3 x charged beam cannons (Tesla + beamer +scatter beam, with turret covering)
6 x flak guns
2 x deflector unit

Jean d'Arc class Command Ship
I'm still tinkering with the weapon loadout, probably I will replace the twin laser with custom beam weapon. I want to make this ship a heavily armoured one equipped with devastating short range weapons.

Artemis class Command ship.
I"m planning to make this ship a specialized ship for long range bombardment, so I armed her with ChaosTheory Ion Stream weapons (thx for the guide).
C&C are welcomed.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:22 pm
by 25000st
Wow. I rather like these. They have good section usage, good colors, and Aegis looks good too. I'd say Artemis is over-armed.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:10 pm
by Morpheus
25000st wrote:Wow. I rather like these. They have good section usage, good colors, and Aegis looks good too. I'd say Artemis is over-armed.
I have to say you're right, I tested the Artemis against a bunch of cruiser, and they were vaporized in a matter of seconds. I'm going back to rebalance them.
Update on the Jean d'Arc, I totally rebuilt her with weapon placement for close range broadside assault, still need rebalancing
