BlackMetalZivon's Ships

25000st · Post by **25000st** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:16 pm

I normally like ships with gray in them for a few reasons.

-It normally looks better.

-I think it is more realistic.

-And the answer to your first question. It makes adding weapons without re-coloring a lot easier.

If you don't want to add gray, however, putting weapons under sections and on top of circular sections often is the solution.

Kiltric · Post by **Kiltric** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:36 pm

King Tiger is much better, though the colors are still a little harsh, consider "greying" them down a bit.

Panzer looks improved, but your section usage is still sloppy and haphazard, especially in the rear. You seem to have the idea of flow better in King Tiger, take a few notes from there and try to apply them to Panzer's sections. That goes for the weapons as well, might help make them look better.

Cycerin · Post by **Cycerin** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:06 pm

The issue isn't that he's recoloring turrets, but that he's making them transparent. It just looks like a bug or something.

Imperator Pavel I · Post by **Imperator Pavel I** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:53 am

Yes, it does look like a bug.

BlackMetalZivon · Post by **BlackMetalZivon** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:25 pm

Actually, the weapons and modules are only recolored. I never made them transparent.

ArcaneDude · Post by **ArcaneDude** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:39 pm

The Panzer still looks horrible, the newer version is not an improvement. It suffers from the exact same flaws as the previous version. Are you even listening to what people say?

The King Tiger is flimsy, the wings look like they'll spontaneously fall off. The shape is okay, but try to alter the proportions so that it's sturdier. Section usage also needs a vast improvement. Colors are okay, and for once the recoloured weapons don't seem that much of an eyesore.

Post by **Anna** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:52 pm

Do me a favour, DarkmetalZivon. Before taking screenshots, press "home" to go to default zoom. Do not zoom in more than this unless the ship is so tiny it would be otherwise invisible. You especially don't zoom in so much that the fucking screenshots stretch the forum frames.

If I see you doing it any more, I'll give you a warning for every picture that's too large.

BlackMetalZivon · Post by **BlackMetalZivon** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:36 pm

ArcaneDude wrote:The Panzer still looks horrible, the newer version is not an improvement. It suffers from the exact same flaws as the previous version. Are you even listening to what people say?

The King Tiger is flimsy, the wings look like they'll spontaneously fall off. The shape is okay, but try to alter the proportions so that it's sturdier. Section usage also needs a vast improvement. Colors are okay, and for once the recoloured weapons don't seem that much of an eyesore.

Yes I'm listening. I'm already reworking the Panzer's design.

It already occured to me that the King Tiger looks flimsy.

BlackMetalZivon · Post by **BlackMetalZivon** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:20 pm

Bump, and more updates:

I-400:

King Tiger:

Panzer:

Kiltric · Post by **Kiltric** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:43 am

You seem to have made a lateral move with Panzer. A lot of what was wrong is better, and your new colors/alpha made it just as bad as before. What I think you're going for is interesting, but you should experiment on smaller ships before trying it this big.

Post by **Anna** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:52 am

I notice you completely ignored my advice and zoomed in ridiculous amounts, so your ships look all fuzzy and blurry and nasty. Luckily for you, you didn't make them so big that they stretch the forum frames, so all I can do is frown and shake my head disapprovingly.

The Panzer is goddamn hideous, by the way. What on earth made you think that was an attractive colour scheme? There are alternatives other than "PURE DARK BLUE" and "PURE BRIGHT YELLOW". There are happy mediums that don't look so eyebleedingly nasty. For fuck's sake.

Warpman · Post by **Warpman** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:05 am

Ouch..colour clash. Such colour shcemes can work with animeish huge robots or something like that...but not ships.

Not-that-good design. Try loading Custom parts. this way you'll get more variety.

BlackMetalZivon · Post by **BlackMetalZivon** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:30 pm

Anna - I zoomed in no more than one or two clicks from default zoom for the most recent screenshots.
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I recolored the Panzer's blue sections in the brown I was using before:

Also, what about my other ships?

Post by **Anna** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:19 pm

It's still ugly. Both the level of zoom and the colour scheme.

Sponge · Post by **Sponge** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:44 pm

BlackMetalZivon wrote:I zoomed in no more than one or two clicks from default zoom for the most recent screenshots.

You're totally missing the point. Don't. Zoom. In. At. All. As soon as you zoom, it gets fuzzy. If it's fuzzy at standard zoom, then you've been stretching sections which is, generally speaking, not a good practice now that custom sections are supported. As far as the ships themselves, they range from mediocre to ugly. Not as bad as some of the stuff around here, but not great by any stretch of the imagination. There are numerous things you could pick up by taking a look at some of the better-received works around the forum. AD, Anna, Eri, etc. are all good places to start.