Natch wrote:
Dude, stop being so damn elitist. I've only been here for 2 days, and you've been the most arrogant jerk here.
Why thank you! This is simply the most complimentary post I have ever received
Now to get back to the original point, your ship, at least at first, didn't even
attempt to be a serious design - it was no different from the other wank designs that were popular when the ship builder first came out. Impossible point defense and ridiculous offense cannot justify an otherwise weak, slow, vulnerable ship. Your second incarnation is better, but not by much, and the Aegis shields only make it worse. It doesn't even have a clearly defined niche - it's just a huge cannon on a frame, something I don't think Battleships Forever really needs. And as th15 said in another thread about the fan-designed ships in general, and I can tell with the Mars cannon - there's not a lot of real forethought into the actual layout of the ship. I try to evolve my stuff and respond to people's criticisms - yes, quite a few of my ships were overpowered, but I've progressively evolved them based on those criticisms, by modifying the weapons layout to reduce total firepower, or by spreading out the arcs so that even if total firepower isn't reduced its more spread out.
In short, it's hard for me to accept your ship seriously.
In fact, your design for a ship is more overpowered than mine. You have the HP of a Peitho, the gun count and Deflectors of an Athena, the Interceptors of a Helios, and the firing arc and speed of a Cronus, with just a little more turning. To top it off, you're as a compact as a Hestia.
I'll have to admit something here.
There was a reason why I posted my ship right after yours. And in almost laughably predictable fashion, you fell into my trap.
First of all it has the HP of a Peitho because, here's a big shock,
it's meant to be a Dreadnaught-class ship like the Peitho. Of course 550 HP might be a bit high, but it's 100 less than a Cronus, and only 150 more than a Moira/Enyo destroyer (of course the Aegis deflectors don't help the cause). It's also meant to be somewhat of a "special" ship like the Athena, using alien technology and meant to specifically challenge the Alien Dreadnaught. It's as compact as a Hestia, because, here's another shocker, it's based off another frame that's in turn meant to be essentially a bigger Hestia (no doubt you can see the family resemblance). Not to mention you say it has "the speed of a Cronus" even though the Cronus, at the blazingly fast speed of
1, is one of the slowest ships in the game.
Anyway, the really relevant points are, and this is what I was trying to illustrate, is what I tried to do to make my ship balanced. First of all, you'll see that a vast majority of the weapons actually lie
outside the protection of the Aegis deflectors, so you don't even have to flank it in order to disarm it. I even went out of the way to place certain weapons and the deflectors at points that leave them vulnerable, especially this latest version. It's weapons arc is also, once again, distributed - yes, it has six scatterbeams, two tachyon guns and four pulse/gatpulse guns, but not all of them can fire in the same direction. Scatterbeams are actually kinda weak, and they can be shot off rather easily.
The second point was that I was hoping to illustrate some of my points by example. If you think
that's overpowered, then maybe you can see how having
six beams and
four PD lasers (which, BTW, are much more powerful than point masers, which is why I only use PD lasers for joke ships) might be a little overpowered too.
And if nothing else I just wanted to see your reaction. Absolutely worth the effort
