2nd try for a decent fleet (Sneek peek time)
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ArcaneDude
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Naaah. He's a cancer, not an oral infection.
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ArcaneDude
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WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO 
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That looks awesome. Can't wait to see how it comes together.
I've been playtesting some of these ships, and I have only two gripes. They look amazing, and they're all balanced relatively with each other. Fix these two glaring issues, and these ships will be among the best I've seen.
Problem 1: It's already been mentioned, but several of these ships have parenting issues. This makes playing with them much less fun, because you destroy a segment in the middle and you don't get the satisfaction of seeing the front half of the ship blow off violently. Instead, the two halves float there. With as many layers of armor as you have, I can see why parenting is tough, but fixing it would make these much better ships.
Problem 2: This one is much less obvious until you do some real playing with these ships. The antennae look great, but they're a real bitch in combat. They cause two problems. First, they have way too much HP, effectively blocking every shot from hitting its target because they jut out.
To compound that, they always get deflectored, making them invincible. Since they stick out, they effectively become a shield, preventing you from hitting the area beneath. Before you can hit the ship, you have to go through layer after layer of almost indestructible antennae. Fortunately, this has an easy fix. Lower the HP on those segments. Make it so they are taken off in a shot or two, before the deflectors go up. ~50 HP should do the trick. Pros? Realism, and a lot more fun out of the battles. Cons? You loose your aesthetics pretty quick against tough ships. This is one of those cases where I feel the pros greatly outweigh the cons.
I've been playtesting some of these ships, and I have only two gripes. They look amazing, and they're all balanced relatively with each other. Fix these two glaring issues, and these ships will be among the best I've seen.
Problem 1: It's already been mentioned, but several of these ships have parenting issues. This makes playing with them much less fun, because you destroy a segment in the middle and you don't get the satisfaction of seeing the front half of the ship blow off violently. Instead, the two halves float there. With as many layers of armor as you have, I can see why parenting is tough, but fixing it would make these much better ships.
Problem 2: This one is much less obvious until you do some real playing with these ships. The antennae look great, but they're a real bitch in combat. They cause two problems. First, they have way too much HP, effectively blocking every shot from hitting its target because they jut out.
To compound that, they always get deflectored, making them invincible. Since they stick out, they effectively become a shield, preventing you from hitting the area beneath. Before you can hit the ship, you have to go through layer after layer of almost indestructible antennae. Fortunately, this has an easy fix. Lower the HP on those segments. Make it so they are taken off in a shot or two, before the deflectors go up. ~50 HP should do the trick. Pros? Realism, and a lot more fun out of the battles. Cons? You loose your aesthetics pretty quick against tough ships. This is one of those cases where I feel the pros greatly outweigh the cons.
Last edited by Sponge on Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
Yeah, I know these probs, but they´ve already been solved at the most ships. This is my long balacing time. Antennas have 10-40 hp. Floating halves have been reduced. There will be blastable holes, I like the idea to blow a hole in a ship. And there are no "mirroring" issues in asym ships. ^^
So stay tuned when I ended my mad screaming / running in circles everytime I´m reparenting a bigger ship.
So stay tuned when I ended my mad screaming / running in circles everytime I´m reparenting a bigger ship.
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ArcaneDude
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Niceness! I can't wait to see the whole ship!
@Lizzie: I demand a pm anger rally!
@Lizzie: I demand a pm anger rally!
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Check out the Epic Music Library
And in this Alliance we bestow our hope and will, that the Dogs of War may never harass the people of our homes again, and that it will bring peace, equality and liberty for all in need and despair. One Universe, One Goal. By the Manifest we command this.~ Saren Vil Ush
It really looks awesome. You've given it a great sense of depth and massiveness. It really does look like some enormous machine.
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Sigh, you along with a select few others make me wish I had a better computer to actually play with these babies...
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tl;dr-ers will be shot on sight.
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